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  1. ralphedel

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    #101 ralphedel, Aug 10, 2019
    Is it likely he would or could say anything else? It would be great to see Ham and Max compete in the same cars, assuming the cars would in fact be equal. Would improve the excitement of F1 for me.
     
  2. classic308

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    #102 classic308, Aug 10, 2019
    Max would be a fool to move to MB. RB look stronger every race, and assuming that Pirelli makes a tire suited to a broad range of teams next year RB could be the team too beat. Honda PU will only get better in 2020. Ferrari is the real mystery.
     
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  3. Bas

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    #103 Bas, Aug 12, 2019

    Teams tend not to dominate for a very long period of time...They all wondered how Mclaren was stopped. Then Williams, then Ferrari (****, everyone back then said they where unbeatable...then suddenly 2005 happens and they had no wins [ignoring Indy])...and then Red Bull.

    Surely the same will happen to Merc? You'd say....
     
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    #104 tifosi12, Aug 12, 2019
    Certainly. F1 is cyclical.
     
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  5. william

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    #105 william, Aug 12, 2019
    This is why all the moaning about Mercedes dominating and F1 becoming boring because of it is just a lot of nonsense.
     
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  6. Bas

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    #106 Bas, Aug 12, 2019
    eh?

    Plenty where moaning during Ferrari's domination. This forum consisted of nothing but moans when Vettel was dominating....


    Where have you been?
     
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  7. william

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    #107 william, Aug 12, 2019

    People will always find something to moan about.

    It's human nature to question everything instead of enjoying life as it comes.
     
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    #108 tifosi12, Aug 13, 2019
    True.

    I hated the years of MS domination for the same reason. The suspense was gone because it was clear he'd cruise from pole to victory. Same thing is happening with MB and Lewis. Which is why it makes now for great racing when something odd happens (Hockenheim, Zeltweg, Budapest).

    There is a chance we'll eventually enter into a phase of total boredom with Max winning race and title year after year. We'll see.
     
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  9. Bas

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    #109 Bas, Aug 13, 2019
    That's my fear if/when max gets a good car...the chance we'll be treated to some of his masterpieces will be....extremely rare.
     
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    #110 tifosi12, Aug 13, 2019
    Unless he gets paired with Lewis at MB.

    Aka Prost/Senna, the sequel.
     
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  11. DF1

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    #111 DF1, Aug 13, 2019
    F1 has a clear history of domination. It is to be expected
     
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    #112 Ferrari 308 GTB, Aug 13, 2019
    Domination ,for sure ,just ask Max (Mosley);)
     
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    #113 tifosi12, Aug 14, 2019
    You beat me to it...;)
     
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  14. I'm 360 Canuck

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    #114 I'm 360 Canuck, Aug 14, 2019
    His own mediocrity.
    I lost all respect for him last year because of his dirty antics to his teammate Ocon. He thinks he’s an established number 1 driver, which is silly. Gaslys skills with Maxs attitude....what a great combination! Lol

    He can go to Mexican NASCAR for all I care if he likes to swap paint. His sponsor is a big reason he even has a ride in the 2nd worst team, so I don’t sweat it if he’s hard done by, by someone with a bigger sponsor that his. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
     
  15. DF1

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    #115 DF1, Aug 21, 2019
    Esteban Ocon is set to agree a two-year deal to drive for Renault and cut his ties with Mercedes, according to reports (AutoBild)
     
  16. 375+

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    #116 375+, Aug 21, 2019
    So Bottas stays and The Hulk goes where, Haas?
     
  17. DF1

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    #117 DF1, Aug 21, 2019
    Haas LoL. Difficult to say. Maybe he is out
     
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    #118 nerofer, Aug 21, 2019
    That's what the german article says; more exactly, that the Hulk is "looking towards Haas"...

    Rgds
     
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    #119 william, Aug 21, 2019

    Good luck with that !

    I can see Ricciardo being assaulted on the track by his eventual team mate.

    Ocon is safe behind a simulator, IMO.
     
  20. DF1

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    #120 DF1, Aug 21, 2019
    Improving the show lol. :)
     
  21. DF1

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    #121 DF1, Aug 21, 2019
    As drivers move they must adapt. Different teams and their cars yield unique structures as Sainz explains - https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/145434/sainz-difference-between-f1-teams-underestimated
    Sainz: Difference between F1 teams, cars underestimated

    Carlos Sainz says Formula 1 teams are "a lot more different than what people imagine", and believes the value of team continuity for a driver is underestimated.

    After two full seasons at Toro Rosso, Sainz's progress earned him a mid-season switch to Renault in 2017, but he was unable to nail down his place with the French manufacturer, departing after a single full season when it secured the services of Daniel Ricciardo instead.

    Now with his third F1 team in McLaren, the Spaniard says the early period of adaptation for Ricciardo at Renault and Charles Leclerc at Ferrari, as well as Pierre Gasly's frustrating stint at Red Bull, have served as evidence of the particularities of each given F1 outfit.

    "They are very different," Sainz said of Toro Rosso, Renault and McLaren.

    "A lot more different than what people imagine. And the cars behave a lot more different than what people think.

    "That's why I think you're seeing that every driver needs a few races to adapt to a team, to a car.

    "We've seen it with Ricciardo this year, with Pierre, with every driver that has changed teams... Leclerc at the beginning of the year.

    "You need a bit of time to find the secrets.

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    "And the teams work differently in every way, so it takes time and people underestimate how much performance you can extract from a package when you've been there more than one year.

    "The performance that I was extracting from a Toro Rosso, that for me was not the midfield leader at any point, and sometimes being good with the Toro Rosso like I was in 2016, 2017, I only achieved it because of knowing my package and knowing how to exploit it.

    "You see [Racing Point's Sergio] Perez, you see [Max] Verstappen now with Red Bull, you see [Lewis] Hamilton with Mercedes.

    "It's a consequence of spending a bit of time with a team and knowing how to exploit that car to the limit."

    Sainz's 58 points accrued is the best tally by a driver for a midfield team in 2019, and he is currently on a run of five top-six finishes in the past seven races.

    However, in terms of pure pace he has faced a stern challenge from rookie team-mate Lando Norris, and the Spaniard says he is not yet completely in tune with the car.

    "I still feel like I have a lot more room for improvement and the car has a lot of more room for improvement, myself setting the car up a bit more to my liking," he added

    "We are still trying a lot of things every Friday just to see which direction I like and everything. But it's a slow process.

    "What I mean is a matter of years, you know? The more years you are in a team or in something, you always learn more about the car and learn more about the team, about the people, how to extract more from every individual.

    "I guess it's like any other work in the world."
     
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    #122 william, Aug 21, 2019

    Yet there are a few drivers who get comfortable in a team and obtain performance almost immediatly.
    Mario Andretti comes to mind; he jumped from March to Ferrari and then Lotus without problem.
    Jacques Villeneuve was immediatly competitive at Williams when he joined F1.
     
  23. DF1

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    #123 DF1, Aug 21, 2019
    FA took the reins at Ferrari quite swift as well!
     
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    #124 375+, Aug 21, 2019
    Mario's F1 progression was actually Lotus, March, Ferrari, Parnelli and Lotus again(WDC) then Alfa and finally Ferrari for his swan song.
     
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  25. Mitch Alsup

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    #125 Mitch Alsup, Aug 21, 2019
    That moaning is one of the reasons I cannot root for Vettel even if he is at Ferrari.

    After rooting against him for 1/2 a decade, suddenly he is the go-to-guy ?!?!?
     
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