a Speciale and Scud were different, with the raw track feel and lower production numbers, however the Pista was not a low production run model and is missing the rawness of its predecessors. So what is the " a lot" that I am missing? With the new publicly traded Ferrari, numbers and depreciation are much less relevant IMO. Besides I drive all my Fcars heavily and put miles on them so I dont care about those two factors much.
Speciale and Pista will have similar production numbers. Some estimates state fewer Pistas but we won’t know till all is said and done. What the Pista May lack in rawness of a NA engine it more than makes up for in massive increase in power over the Speciale.
Since appearance is subjective if you don’t care about exclusivity and depreciation then you have a very valid point.
First video I've seen where you can actually hear it under load on a track. Unfortunately, it doesn't help much. The GPF has definitely turned down the volume. I will wait to hear it in person before making my final judgement.
The F8 will have a short production cycle (2-3 years) which means numbers will be low. Speed between the Pista and F8 will be within the margin of error. Driving dynamics differences are at present, clearly unknown. The F8 sound in the video posted lacks gravitas and authority. The Pista engine note is more satifying. The Pista will hold value definitely in the short term and most likely but to a lesser degree in the long term. The F8 will be a normally depreciating model.
I have a 458 spider and a 488. I gotta say my old 2013 458 still looks very relevant as the overall shape (especially the front) has stayed extremely similar since 2010. It's not like the 355 to 360 to 430 to 458 days when every 5 years meant a major facelift. That said my 458 is getting old-- sticky buttons, crappy a/c, crappy sound, power not there compared to the newer models, so I'll be putting my name in for an F8. But no doubt the 458 certainly looks like a new FCar and the sounds is way better. It has been a great car to own....
The “ a lot” is you don’t have to drive a car with an ugly abortion of an ass when you buy the Pista. The F8 rear end is a distorted hideous mess.
Coincid- do you know if there is anyway (OEM from Ferrari) to reduce the wheel well gap especially in the rear on the F8? My dealer mentioned they can do so at the dealership using the standard suspension. I love the F8 aesthetics but feel the rise height it the one thing I’ll need to address.
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Rear end looked great when I saw it in person. Five of my friends who attended the same event also liked it and have each placed deposits.
Looks good to me too! For some reason Mark feels compelled to let everyone know he hates the car, as he has done multiple times in this thread. We get it, you hate it and won’t be buying one!
The rear looks fabulous in person.The sweeping upward arc ( screen vent) of the rear, maintains the similar design aesthetic of the arc of the front bumper creating a homogenous appearance which results in the F8 looking stunning when viewed from all angles.
To me it’s the front that is less appealing. Someone said it has no bad angle and then the first picture posted after that comment was a bad angle - low front quarter. Looks a little bit busy and too many straight lines from that angle. Overall nice car and I ordered one though.
I didn't say I HATED the car, I just HATE the ass end (especially the Camaro taillights). I think the front end is nice looking and I like the side view. The mechanicals appear awesome! As far as the "equal to a pista" well,,,, I will let the market decide that. Im pretty sure which way that will go.
The F8 is not going to be any sort of milestone. Unfortunately the last of the V8 line suffers from a loss of the visceral experience of a truly great Ferrari. The sound and rumble and vibration of the V8 are hardly worth discussion. It is a faster and more nimble. But less involving and less special. Maybe the F8 speciale version will be better in this regard. Of course this is not the fault of Ferrari. It is the result of regulations.
So you have driven the F8 where, outside of your imagination. Yet with the absence of driving experience you pronounce judgment on its uninvolving driving dynamics .
So now the F8 looks like a Camaro? I thought the Stradale looked like a Camaro. I’m so confused! Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat