812 Spider

I understand, but I have manners.

 

Get your facts straight if you do not like people pointing out the reality.

 

Just a minor correction as I posted these same pictures yesterday in another thread. These pictures are from the Ferrari Media website. media.ferrari.com

 

I've just skimmed through here quickly, so please excuse me if this info has already been posted . . . but have they said how many will be made?

Thank you.

 

Not LE model.


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Interesting the color picked was silver.

Looks great.

 

Interesting how different local Ferrari markets are.

In Los Angeles, a customer cannot just assume they will get an allocation for a new car. The exception might be for a Lusso or a Portofino

I believe that this is due to the fact that our population size is very large and the number of dealers and their allocations are so small.

In regards to the artificial scarcity of 812 I used to think that Ferrari is wanting to do this on purpose in order to push buyers to do certain things—buy used cars, buy less desirable models, sell their recently purchased cars back to the dealership (at a significantly greater discount than market prices) Thus making an 812 allocation a reward for good behavior.

But will this paradigm be sustainable? Ferrari is increasing production numbers while introducing more models such as the SUV. With so many more cars to shift, will asking a customer to buy several cars in order to get the hot new model make a sales impact?

Why not make more 812Spiders?
The manufacturing time window keeps them from flooding the market.

Sorry for the digression!

 

So, at the end, how many 812 GTS will be sold.....more or less......?
And who will be so reliable to buy one?

 

It's a low volume car, not numbered. So we don't know for sure.

Looking at the production window etc. the 1200'ish number I've been told seems about right.

 

Agreed. Is this a special release color silver, or Grigio Titanio? If it's the former, what's the official name of this color, if anyone knows? Thanks

 

Great promotional video as per typical Ferrari style. Beautiful car.

 

It is called Grigio GTS, a special new gray.
Someone on FChat however alluded to the possibility that it is Grigio Coburn, but I don't know if that is accurate.

 

Had a good chat with the 812GTS product owner regarding sound. He was VERY confident that there would be no change in the V12's sound. He made an interesting point which was unlike the mid engined cars the sound from the V12 cars is predominantly engine sound rather than exhaust sound. As the engine is quite a distance from the exhaust and (GPF) - approx 2m there is no change to the characteristics of the V12 sound. In addition the 2m exhaust pipes prior to the GPF, Catalytic converters etc add to the ability to maintain the sound and almost act like a resonator. So yes there "might" be a change of sound from the exhaust - ultimately it will be minimal.

They confirmed the sound issue with the press so I am guessing they are confident it will be a non issue. BTW: It makes sense that on he mid engined car it would be a bigger issue.

BTW: Cars are sensational and Universo was a fantastic event.

 

Thank you!

 

Omg this sounds terrible [emoji853]

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I believe I do, and you have every right not to concur with my statement.

 

Guys, please settle this privately. Thanks

 

Not a logical assumption given that there is a large exposed rear vent for the wheel arch just inches below and aft to it that is specific to that purpose. Unless someone can establish the source of the air to the vent my assumption is its cosmetic which is kinda sad. The Superfast aero documentation is specific about the functioning of those vents as air was pulled in directly from the C pillar scoops (eliminating drag and adding down force to the rear lip) but they were eliminated to accommodate the folding top in this model. The design in that area is much cleaner without the fake vents IMO.

 

I have that information directly from Ferrari’s 812GTS literature.

 

I would say that is not good marketing. If you eliminate the input and keep the output there is no purpose especially if the rear of the wheel well has a large vent exactly to reduce the pressure identical to the Superfast. The vents purpose was as I detailed and also from the literature and aero videos. You also don't need external vents to accomplish this as the vents are incorporated into the interior of the car in the past generations. +200 mph cars must have this to be functional. Its the designer who chooses to toss them all over the exterior of the painted panels especially on a street car.

 

That all may be true. I merely responded to your original question with the statement from Ferrari itself, beyond that I have nothing.

 

After seeing the rather significant size of the 812 GTS buttresses, I started reading about their history. I found this interesting article which discusses Pininfarina:

https://driventowrite.com/2015/01/13/aerodynamics-design-features-buttress-history/

Visually, I prefer the more delicate flying butresses on both the 599 GTB / GTO and 599 SA Aperta. I’d be interested to know if the bulkier 812 buttresses are useful aerodynamic devices or designed primarily to satisfy safety or packaging needs. Did Ferrari include wind tunnel graphics or data in the GTS presentation as they did at the January 2017 812SF coupe unveiling?

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Sorry, the 599 SA Aperta is really one of my all time favorite of all vehicles. It simply is something on another level. But hey, I don't mind having 812 GTS at the mean time!

 

Has anyone had their allocation confirmed yet? Any delivery date recorded?

My dealer explained that it’s down to the individual dealers as to who gets a car (unlike limited edition models; where Ferrari HQ decides). However, Ferrari HQ does need to approve the dealers’ list of names

 

I think this will be the case with pretty much all models going forward.