Hi all, Are there any special tools I will need to do this job? One video I saw showed a aluminum piece that locks the bottom of engine? Just thought I would post a quick thread to ask. Thank you all!!
Flywheel lock, tensioner spanner wrench/adapter, tensioner lock pins, timing belt acoustic meter, small hands, bilingual skills to cuss in both English and Italian.... There are several articles including spreadsheets detailing the process including parts needed, torque values, tools, etc.
Does anyone have these parts they would be willing to lend me for a weekend. I will obviously pay shipping! And a bottle of wine!!!
I seriously doubt someone here will take your offer unless you're willing to submit some sort of monetary deposit for the tools. Just saying.
Funny you should ask. I did just that for another member. Basically, I've got the tools, they are doing me nothing for the next 3 yrs or so. So I basically did a Loan-a-tool like some of the auto parts stores do. Just like the stores, I don't make anything off the deal, just a good will type thing. They are hoping you will buy stuff from them. I am just looking out for the DIY Ferrari mechanic! He sent me the tool replacement cost via PP plus shipping and I sent him the tools. When he was done, he sent them back and I sent his PP back to him once I received the tools in good condition. If you are interested, let me know. The only tools that don't have a replacement cost are the locking pins since they come with new tensioners and are not available separately. Not sure what year your car is but even if it's a 2004, new tensioner assemblies might be something to consider. The only special tool that I don't include is the camshaft locking device...but I can if you need that highly specialized tool as well.
My prices are directly from Ricambi/Hill Engineering and shipping to my house (for replacement) is detailed below. Astute viewers will notice the tensioner tool IS NOT from Hill. However this does work as described. Lets just say the "what happens if something gets lost or broken scenario has been tested. If you would like them both or all three, let me know. Since the tensioner lock pins are not available separately, we can discuss that if you are not replacing the tensioner assemblies. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I've done this job multiple times on 308, Mondial t, 348, TR, F40 and CS. Vice grips are your friend. The other stuff is nice, but I've never needed it.
Parking brake & wife’s lovely foot on brake pedal with car in gear - (mine is a 3pdl) no need for flywheel lock tool. 2 drill bits and a screw driver - no need for tensioner tool. Finishing nail from my pneumatic nailer - I do have the pin this is just as good. (Don’t use brittle stuff like drill bit or Alan key.) Frequency app for iPhone many out there, perfect. I have compared to the Ducati tool, just as good. Silly putty for taking imprint of the timing marks on the cams on the back end under the inspection covers. Try it. Vice grips to lock cam pulleys -official method.
Great solutions there, esp. the finishing nail and silly putty! I didn't bother wifey when I did mine....it was hard enough for her to see her car in pieces when I did the exhaust!
I have drawers full of "specialized" tools (i.e. homemade/modified tools) that came from my past experiences in shops both professionally and personally. I have no problem with homemade stuff or alternative ideas as they are usually just as good if not better. With that being said, I did buy the "specialty tools" to change the belts on my 360 and have them sitting in a drawer taking up space. If anyone wants to use them, I'll send them to you in exchange for the replacement cost of the tool. I don't make anything on this and there is no time limit. When you are done, send me the tools back and I'll send your money back. Simple. I'm not discounting the home made stuff or alternative methods at all. It's just I know at times, some people would rather use the tool designed for the task vs. improvising. So if someone needs them, they are available rather then them buying them and having them sit in their tool box. I also have the Transmission bushing tool remover/installer as well.
I meant no disrespect. I buy and own many tools also. I have even lent my degree wheel, piston stop, and gauges to fellow fchatters. I agree the correct tools are indispensable. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Sorry if it came across like that, didn't mean for it too. I might drive a Ferrari and Maserati but I don't sleep in Ferrari PJ's if you get my drift. After all, some of the parts on my car actually came from AutoZone!
the timing belt tensioner wrench I bought for about $20.00 It is a VW-Audi application tool https://www.toolsource.com/audi-tools-c-1321_831_844/vw-audi-volkswagen-tension-pulley-spanner-wrench-sp-tools-p-58854.html There are a few places where this is available $84.00 is very pricey!
Don't forget the short 34mm socket for the crank nut....not many home shop tool kits have that in it.
Hey Ghostdiver, are you interested in posting some pics of the flywheel locking tool from all sides with a tape measure sitting beside it? That would be very helpful! Bill
I have seen the crank lock tool made of an aluminum plate with two bolts threaded through to lock the ring gear. I think if one values his car it makes more sense to pay the $220.00 +/- for the Hill part, and get the job done correctly
I agree that the two-bolts-through-an-aluminum-plate option is not accurate enough to risk your motor on but making a proper tool modeled on the Hill version should not be that difficult. I have to change belts in the spring and I plan on making a cardboard template for the locking portion of the tool. I will try to pick up 4 teeth instead of two to spread the load a little. Once I've got an accurate cardboard template it will be easy to make it in metal. I intend to incorporate inspection holes so that when the tool is installed I can confirm with a borescope that the teeth are engaged correctly. I think that it should take about an hour to build in steel or about 1.5 hrs in alluminum. Doing this for me is more about the satisfaction of making my own tool rather than saving the money of buying one. When I've got accurate templates I'll post them if anyone wants them.
Now that's creativity and this is what has made FC so viable for so many years. If one has the time and the skills it's great to make useful parts. There is no question that the Hill products are superb in every respect. The oil filter wrench is an invaluable tool for example. However, the Hill crank lock is quite important for those of us who do not have the time to make the parts
Or those of us that do several 360s timing belt jobs a year and it's just good to have something that flat out works.
BTW the Hill Engineering tool is not locking on the teeth of the flywheel but is lodging itself in a slot on the side of the clutch pressure plate. It’s a very sturdy setup. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
