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  1. dvelez2

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    I love your last sentence! As a person who has the privilege to do heart transplants for a living, I could not agree more!! Small details can make a world of difference in medicine and in cars. I’m hopeful to to see the car in person this week and make an informed decision on moving up from a 488. I also do appreciate the different points of view.


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  2. Jcmd

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    "Despite the similarities in human and chimp genomes, the scientists identified some 40 million differences among the three billion DNA molecules, or nucleotides, in each genome. The vast majority of those differences are not biologically significant, but researchers were able to identify a couple thousand differences that are potentially important to the evolution of the human lineage" These can be quantified whereas each driving perception of "driving dynamics" is so subjective. So if one says there is little difference in the way the car feels to them, who are we to argue.
     
  3. Jcmd

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  4. Jcmd

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    to those who have been fortunate to own both Huracan and 488 and to drive them for a good while you get to know what you like about each car. the sound of the NA engine, the torque of the 488, steering of the 488, damping characteristics of each car, visibility, driving position, brake performance etc... since you are an audio guy.. you should stick to the Performante ,the 488 of the F8 is never going to be for you.
     
  5. Coincid

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    dvelez2- I must commend you on your work which not only requires enormous skill, dexterity, expertise and training but it must be so gratifying giving life to those in desperate need. There is no greater altruistic human endeavour than saving lives and being responsible for those closest to continue to share their love with the patients you have brought back from the brink. I applaud you with awe and admiration.

    I wanted to be a surgeon but my aversion to the sight of blood caused me to divert my goal to electronic design and ultimately to a much less noble profession- the law.

    As a designer of audio components, with greater experience, expertise and enhanced perceptivity it became abundantly clear that everything makes a sonic difference. Every component - resistors, capacitors, transformers, wiring etc.will alter the sound in one way or another- whether an improvement or a degradation. Ostensibly insignificant factors, such as the design and construction of the connecting cable, the chassis material, the supporting feet under a component, for example, will perceptibly alter the sound to a discerning listener. Yet, there exists those who claim otherwise and they do not hear any audible differences between audio components. An analagous parallel exists in the world of super cars. The major structure and suspension of a vehicle is responsible for how a car interacts with the road surface.The chassis consists primarily of the brakes, steering, suspension, wheels and tires , all of which play a pivotal role in the manner in which a car rides and handles. A chassis is the sum of its parts and a change to even one of its systems can significantly alter the car's driving dynamics. Therefore, changes from one car model to another that encompasses engine upgrades with enhanced power, lighter, more durable parts, transmission remapping, suspension retuning, reduction in moving mass and greater downforce, will inevitable result in altering the perceived driving characteristics of the new model regardless of the fundamental similarities to the previous model it was based upon. The degree of change may range from subtle to monumental. It may represent an advancement or even a degradation in performance but what is indisputable is that the cars can be differentiated and the fact that there will be those who are incapable of doing so, does not negate the fact that the differences do exist.
     
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  6. Coincid

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    You may be right. I remain open minded. I hope the F8 does provide me with more excitement and pleasure because that is and will always remain my goal.
     
  7. MANDALAY

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    I hope it does

    I can’t compare with a labo but I can note my 488 GRB has noticeably got louder with more burbles the more kms I drive
     
  8. Shadowfax

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    Agree..... just not going to happen.

    A GT sports car version is always going to provide more raw sensation and feedback to the driver. To have GT car traits in a regular production model without any form of compromise would be miraculous which is precisely why there are separate versions of the same car.

    The 2 members reporting their f8 experience have confirmed that the later faster more improved version is able to be maneuvered and driven faster than ever before and evidently without even knowing it!

    For some this is appealing whilst for others it is less exciting.
     
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  9. Ohanoune

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    I have asked for the same info, I hope the V8 will stay forever, I don't wanna hybrid.
     
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  10. Ohanoune

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    That's true! But still the F8 is a very interesting car, may be the last interesting car from Ferrari before an electric storm begins!!!
     
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  11. REALZEUS

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    You keep repeating this ad infinitum, as if it were the opinion of Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna...
     
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  12. Jcmd

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    The lambo is an easy car to drive fast because it makes me feel confident it wont bite, the built in electronic aids and the 4 wheel drive feels
    Ike the car is on rails. The steering ,at least in the 2016 version is not lively ie the small inputs you make does not make the cars balance change too noticably vs the 488. In a sense the 488 is more exciting in that it is a slippery beast and demands that the driver pay attention to what the car is liable to do when it wants to bite you. Push it at your peril. If you like to play then the F is it. But i always feel i could go have a better lap time in the Lambo without getting a heart attack. Go to a lambo dealer and they will sell you a copy right there, F is perceived to be more difficult to get...like high end audio, and that could be exciting too.
     
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  13. Jcmd

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    Yes.. my experience too.. we learned to listen properly to the soundtrack... we can play it like an instrument with those paddles and the gas pedal at diffrent rpm ranges. The valves open at around 4K rpm.
     
  14. Shadowfax

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    Absolutely! I think anyone who missed out on a Pista, or who held back on 488GTB that still plans on a having a a brand new Ferrari can no longer be fussy as they were previously - that is one thing for certain.

    It's now a case of shut up about anything you may or may not like about the F8 - and take it willingly and with a smile on your face- or, take a hybrid or electric something.
     
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  15. Shadowfax

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    #2790 Shadowfax, Nov 4, 2019
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    Would it matter if the opinions were from regular owners or, can reports only be from approved drivers whom you've personally qualified with Ferrari HQ? It as if you are a Ferrari soup Nazi. If anyone here says anything you don't like it's "No more Ferrari's for you"!
     
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  16. Ohanoune

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    In fact things are a lot worth on the SF90 STRADALE section! It's kinda of war there. Only because I have told them about my opinion how ugly the exterior design of the SF90 is !! hhhha
     
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  17. Shadowfax

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    I can just imagine....haven't looked there in a while but to be polite let's just say the design is indeed polarizing. Yes, sometimes the truth is definitely best left unspoken. I found looking at SF90 and being able to say it looks awesome takes the meaning of looking through a pair of rose colored glasses to a whole new level never seen before. Oh well. I guess now it's "No more soup for you"!
     
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  19. Shadowfax

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    Looks hot!! Love the black roof so long as its paint and NOT Vinyl.
     
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  20. Coincid

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    You are comparing a 610/4 to the 488. I am referring to the Performante which is a completely different car. The 610 is overly compliant, refined and excessively comfortable and is not a car I had any interest in purchasing. The Performante is on a different level of performance. It is track focused with a highly heightened level of driver engagement and objective capability. I prefer the 488 over the 610 on every parameter of driving performance with the exception of sound.
     
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  21. REALZEUS

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    My point is that you keep referring those two opinions as the end of all opinions, whereas there are many press reviews around.
     
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  22. Shadowfax

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    #2797 Shadowfax, Nov 4, 2019
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    But we've been over this. Press is not reliable especially where Ferrari is concerned. Say the wrong thing and boom you're blacklisted! Either-way I'm sure it will be fast and a great car to own even if not the most compelling and exciting Ferrari to drive. Better this than some hybrid or electric jobby and definitely a darn sight better looking going by BB. Oh boy what A mess!
     
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  23. REALZEUS

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    That's one way of looking at it. The other is that professional reviewers are more knowledgeable and can discern finer differences better than the average driver.
     
  24. Shadowfax

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    Sigh..... if you say so zeus. Maybe some owners should get the professional reviewers to drive their cars for them and comment accordingly. That way the editorial environment can remain controlled for the eager readers who only drink one brand of Koolaid..
     
  25. SoCal to az

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    I just can’t agree with this. Professional reviewers say things just to stoke a response. Remember it wasn’t too long ago that the Pista was declared unemotional by these professional reviewers. Now people are healing praises on the car and it’s emotion and the way it drives. Professional reviewers are the equivalent of those that like to yell fire in theater just to elicit a reaction.
     
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