Hypothetical for the forum...

Oops. A, if forced.
T

 

Add in gorgeous ladies, and the Cali and I are there!

Pending wife approval, of course.

T

 

That’s assuming electric cars become the final chapter of the current debate, and I think once the world stops kidding themselves about the ability of any country in the world being able to generate enough electricity to actually charge all these supposed planet saving vehicles, they will be consigned to the scrap heap before any petrol car reaches it.

People value independent mobility, and the ability to drive how they want, where they want. I wouldn’t buy an electric car because although they claim 300 miles range or whatever, that’s pure ********, as the way I drive (as fast as I can between the two points, hard on the brakes and then the gas in between) my real range would be in the tens of miles, not hundreds, and hence, I’d probably need two recharges a day from an electricity grid already at capacity. A buddy of mine bought a Tesla - the ludicrous one, top of the range, fastest one they do - as he flies to work in his microlight 120 miles each way, and rides sports bikes and various proper sports cars in his spare time. He is a techie, so a Tesla appealed to him. Well, I asked him about his range, and he stated he has never been able to take the car to work as it could never reach it, and then of course if he did get there, he wouldn’t get back unless he was able to plug it in at the other end. This is great while only one or two have these things, as a novelty, the company might allow the charging, but when 100 employees all have them, are they then going to pick up the tab, do they even have enough spare outlets in the building? He gets about 70 miles max out of his Tesla, he drives it like he drove his AC Cobra, so while he says he enjoys it, it is a weekend shopping car, a date night transport, and nothing else. The cool bastard still flies his plane to work and back, which to me is way more impressive than a big lumbering electric beastie with looks like an almost upmarket Toyota

as for converting any of my cars, no chance. I like the noise that accompanies every journey. When I’m in town, everyone knows I’m coming, the noise of my Ferrari, and my big supercharged Rangie, let people know to get out the way, quickly, and don’t dilly dally in the outside lane.. how will they know to move over if I silently crept up on them, and even more so, how embarrassing if while I’m overtaking them, the batteries run out and the car starts slowing down!

 

But! Would you convert your Ferrari to electric if it still had cam belts to replace?

 

I don’t care who tries to convert me, or makes videos, I can’t think of anything more boring than an electric car..... our Ferraris are a source of excitement, glamour, noise, heritage, culture....... an electric car is just a vehicle, just a tool that happens to take a person/persons from point A to point B, no culture, no sensation, no exhilaration, no feeling at all..... get you to work, long as it’s not too far and you don’t want the radio on if it is, but to get out and experience any excitement? Only if it catches fire

 

Word....

Kevin

 

SHTF - Diesels will be the last vehicles running.

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yep, it would be full of electric cars with dead batteries queuing for a charge, while I race past between filling stations at warp 9!

 

Well a group of battery engineers at the university or Pennsylvania have figured out a way to fully charge the battery in these electric cars in 20 minutes.

Just wondering..has anybody broken down down each individual component in an ice car to find out what each items carbon footprints is? From the manufactur of the spark plugs, to the refining of all the different fluids needed; including the cost of storage and transport, against the electric car? I wonder who's overall foot print would be larger..

Just think about the items an electric car does not need. Now also eliminate the manufacturing of said components and the raw material mining etc. I think you will find the electric car far far less a polluter. It is not all about tail pipe emissions. It's the entire car.

Face it. The automobile is probably the most pollution producing item man has ever made.

 

^I think what you're looking for is what is known at a life cycle analysis.

For example....
https://www.ioes.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/ev-vs-gasoline-cars-practicum-final-report.pdf

T

 

Alcohol will always exist. Congress already tried banning it once and it didn't work. Therefore ICE will always exist as it can run on alcohol.

 

Thanks! The differences are quite dramatic. All of you reading this thread should check out that link.

 

Option A

Both of our sports cars are manual transmission vehicles. Making them electric would ruin the experience.

 

I would not ever convert any Ferrari to electric. Unless it came from the factory as an electric car then if you swap that 'engine' for any other 'engine' it is no longer a Ferrari but a replica of one. I detest replica Ferraris.

I would no more swap the Ferrari engine for any other ICE for that matter.
My next daily will possibly be electric, at least hybrid and current thoughts are a Model 3. Though I have not driven one a colleague has one. It's a great thing in itself but I can't really get anymore enthusiastic about it than I do my mobile phone. That is exciting for the first day when I change it, well almost a day.

The thing is my phone is cheap and does a great job and I suspect ultimately a Model 3 will be.

 

Good point.

 

Yes ethanol (corn juice) is a great alternative.
Also what are they going to do with air travel. I heard that the carbon footprint of your butt sitting in a plane going half way round the world is worse than driving a car for a year.

 

Banning doesn't really go over well in the United states. Our temperament doesn't allow it.

 

Yes. And the best thing for the environment is to not buy any new car. And just keep your old one. That is the answer.

 

And your report on fully charging a battery in 20 minutes lacks serious context.

 

Was going to post a link to the artical for others to have a look at, but for some reason my browser wouldn't allow a copy and paste. I'll try again a bit later.

 

Might this be it?
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/11/01/penn-state-researchers-say-a-ten-minute-recharge-is-possible-with-new-battery-technology/

The peer reviewed article...

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/11/01/penn-state-researchers-say-a-ten-minute-recharge-is-possible-with-new-battery-technology/

Looks like they charge at high temp...T