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Discussion in 'Australia' started by Aircon, Mar 23, 2009.

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  1. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Nov 1, 2003
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    Nobody would do that :p
     
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  2. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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  3. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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  4. au-yt

    au-yt F1 Veteran
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    And the flush door handles didnt open, and they couldn’t rescue him.
     
  5. au-yt

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  6. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    You're still dumb
     
  7. FazzerPorscheman

    FazzerPorscheman F1 World Champ

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  8. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ
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  9. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    I thought you were a good father until that statement
     
  10. au-yt

    au-yt F1 Veteran
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    She has a year to catch up so dont be to hard on her
     
  11. au-yt

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  12. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    Bizarre - I read the article and came to a different conclusion. My favourite comment about the Hundy: "The engine has all the character of an ink-jet printer"

    Having said that, I think Chev have made a mistake not offering a manual trans in the C8. The market is waking up to the reality of driver engagement at road speeds vs. ultimate lap times on the track.
     
  13. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    I don't agree with you about the transmission. My opinion is modern car, modern gearbox. Has Ferrari, McLaren and Lamborghini etc made a mistake too?
     
  14. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    In short yes. I think it's also about economics, very hard to justify the engineering effort of integrating modern chassis and diff electronics for the 20% of buyers who want a manual.

    Most people who buy exotic sports cars don't have the skills to drive them at anything beyond 8/10ths (if that) hence the need for electronic nannies. Meanwhile, what the buyer really wants is an auto that's easy to drive, but also has an impressive Fiorano or Nurburgring lap time for bragging rights.
     
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  15. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    where'd you get that 20% figure from??? I reckon it'd be nowhere near that figure.
     
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  16. Maranello550

    Maranello550 F1 World Champ
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    Cashed up baby boomers ? I'd say they would all go for manuals if there was a choice...
     
  17. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    I don't reckon that
     
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  18. Gizzi

    Gizzi F1 Veteran
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    I think Ian is right as far as average persons driving abilities. I’ve seen the drivers, on the track, of these new ultra fast cars. Nearly all of the ones I’ve been on track with need all the bloody help they can get. They are just super cashed up and like cars. On the other hand, if a driver wants the visceral experience, they buy an earlier model, in a manual. End of story. The older cars are harder, more involving, and take much more skill to drive at pace. In my opinion, THAT’S the reward for driving these cars. Where the F can we drive these modern cars anywhere their limits anywhere. Most stay on city streets with the occasional mountain ‘drive’. They prefer the auto, a/c and reliability of the new cars. Not that I wouldn’t want one mind you.


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  19. Maranello550

    Maranello550 F1 World Champ
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    I do...I'd rather have a manual CS , Scud , Speciale , Pista , F12 TDF ( all the proper modern F cars ) in manual....I know a lot of others who feel the same....
     
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  20. Maranello550

    Maranello550 F1 World Champ
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    100 % Gizzi....Look at the Nissan GTR....Minimal drivers input....Poor Horse....:)
     
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  21. Horse

    Horse Three Time F1 World Champ
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    You know that's not true, don't you?
     
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  22. IanB

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    It's called the Pareto Principle. 80/20 rule applies in all sorts of situations.
     
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  23. Gizzi

    Gizzi F1 Veteran
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    That thing is just...wow.
    I hate chasing horse and I get a clear spot where I can talk into the uhf about how quick we are, and he says he hasn’t noticed, he’s been busy updating his Facebook page.......


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  24. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Isn't that disagreeing with Ian?
     

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