FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRANDE PRÊMIO DO BRASIL 2019: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

Please bury him.

He's a donkey when overtaken by others then the moron decides he's going to be an ass on his teammate, most likely upset that Leclerc made him look useless and was going to actually TRY to fight with the guys in getting.

He's asleep at the wheel on restarts (and before, see the famous Hamilton incident), the start and basically everywhere else.

Please bury him and dump him.

 

Better than saying Leclerc, who was ahead until idiot Vettel came along and sideswiped him on the straight, should have anticipated the ****** move, and in a fraction of a second veered left. Right.

 

Leclerc did a brilliant job holding up Bottas.
(I wonder if Bottas' failure had anything to do with sitting too close too long.)

Since the Leclerc pit stop during the SC, you could almost hear Vettel thinking, "I started 2nd, he started 14th --- if he passes me, it won't look good."

It looked like Vettel lost a place to Albon, because he was more interested in blocking Leclerc than in racing for position.

Leclerc had the fresher tires. Once Vettel lost a place to Albon, the pit wall should have ordered the position swap.
But Vettel's ego outweighs his judgement --- again.

From the race and the interviews, it seems that not only is Leclerc the better driver, but Charles is also the grown-up of the two.

I doubt Ham will get a penalty, but it was a sham dame for Albon.

 

The move of Seb was very slight. He had to cover the next turn. The contact was left rear wheel towards right front wheel. Who was in front and had the right to move? And who had to avoid the crash?
But interesting that the front suspension of Charles did brake by that minimal contact.
And yes, the team and both drivers made tons of mistakes all over the season.

 

LH penalized 5 sec demoted to 7th

 

Penalty on LH. What a joke, the guy was on the curb. Crazy.

 

Today the race had everything racing fans have been asking for: plenty of overtakings, some very bold moves, a driver with grid penalty moving spectacularly through the field, a lucky escape in the pit lane, drivers constantly attacking and others defending vigourously, safety car periods, unscheduled pit stops, changes of strategy, contacts, a team eliminating itself in view of the finish, you had it !
The outcome was really unpredictable: the second on the podium was even sacked from his team mid-season!
There was no procession, no team dominating, and there was a race from the lights to the flag, far from boring.
If people still complain after that, I don't know what they expect; a shooting perhaps ?

 

Source? Not seeing it on formula1.com nor news channels

 

You’re right, a pit wall order should’ve take place. Did you hear anything?

 

So Sainz gets his first podium. Congrats to him and McLaren.

 

Binotto said, in the Sky interview that the drivers were "free to race".
Which would be another bad call from the pit wall.

He also claimed that they didn't pit Vettel because he didn't have any more new softs.

But then, Ferrari isn't exactly known for being "transparent" in interviews.

 

Lewis gets a 5sec. penalty....drops to P7.

So it's true.

 

You were quick; I just deleted my post !!! LOL

 

The main problem are not the drivers, they’re doing their job. The main problem for me is Binotto to manage both of them. In times of Hamilton vs. Rosberg, Merc did a better job...

 

I somewhat disagree with this. Yes Schumi is a better driver and would have not made driving errors. But you have to factor in the strategic failure of the whole entire team. That plays a big factor

 

Hamilton's penalty is small consolation for Albon. Poor chap . . .

 

Suspension tends to be very strong in certain directions so a relatively light contact at the wrong angle can have a big effect whilst a heavy contact at a different angle can be fine.

I think "free to race" at this point in the season with both championships long gone and them running fourth and fifth isn't really that big a deal. If they were first and second and the same thing happened then that would be entirely different. so, whilst I think the team should have been managing the drivers better, for me they've made a lot worse calls earlier in the season albeit without the same consequences.

 

Utter crap that the stewards couldn't decide this before the podium ceremony. Sainz deserved the moment... And the fans deserve to see the top 3!

 

That's why I only said 2 titles.

 

Ferrari's pit wall has been a joke since they lost Ross Brawn.
(And there were a few bobbles under Brawn, as well.)

 

What Vettel did today was completely stupid and idiotic. However if anyone will blame themselves it's Vettel. You keep thinking Hamilton is this God like person and he does nothing wrong.

 

But, with fresh tires, Leclerc had a shot at a podium, if Vettel hadn't held him up.

 

Yes, that's very poor show to apply disqualification after prize-giving, but even worse to deprive the rightful recipients of their podium ceremony.

The FIA needs to sort it out.

 

**Fernando has left the chat**

 

The Seb-Leclerc clash of today is reminiscent of the Seb-Webber clash in Turkey 2010....the only difference is in 2010 Webber makes it out while Seb is out of the race.