Ferrari ROMA

Wet Sump ok for ordinary cars on the road. Dry sump track cars , F1 to prevent oil starvation.

IMO the most Beautiful aspects of a Ferrari is its engine. Wet sump and its just like any other engine. Easier to make and service hence why they have it in this category. No other car has wet sump.

This explains the loss in power compared to the 488 GTB , PISTA , F8 engine.

IMO this alone detracts any beauty the Roma, Portofino , California has. I want a real FERRARI engine based on F1.

 

So wet sump = less power = slower?


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It's not even a track car!, and the people who want la ROMA, are not looking for what you are looking for! They are very different to you, and moreover those people have 0 interest to know if it is a dry or wet sump.

 

= An elegant grand tourer like the Bentley GT and Aston Martin DB11, all of them have a wet sump oil system!

 

I agree with this. I don’t know the difference between wet and dry sumps (that’s why I asked) and would never think the Roma is a track focused car. I just know it looks pretty great and Ferrari has consistently made the best engines I have ever experienced. So it is a genuine question as to what the difference between a wet vs dry sump would make in a car like this. I still don’t know.


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As I posted in the other thread, the whole wet sump/dry sump debate does not make sense to me. All Ferrari GT cars currently (Portofino and GTC4LussoT) use wet sump versions of the Ferrari V8 Turbo. I have not heard one owner complain about the engine because it is a wet sump. The engine fits perfectly what the mission statement of the car is.

 

This was really helpful, thank you. My takeaway was that Ferrari is really good at using the right tech for the right application. 488 uses dry sump for better track characteristics and the Roma being a GT uses wet.

If I got that right then it sounds like the complaints about the Roma not having a dry sump is just bitching for the sake of bitching (especially since they haven’t driven the car). Internet as usual then.


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Exactly

 

Ferrari should not move to Turbo, turbo is only one step from electric , both have bad sound or not sound at all ,

 

Should not but they are forced to! Because of new laws they must reduce numbers of cylinders (from 12 to 8, from 8 to 6) and hence a turbo is needed to produce at least similar power than before.
This has been discussed a dozen times before already.

Marcel Massini

 

why Lambo don't reduce cylinders?

 

Suggest to ask Lamborghini.
This is ferrarichat.

Marcel Massini

 

It's not a matter of cylinders per se, but more of a test cycle measured emissions issue and lower capacity, for certain markets. Lamborghini too has a turbo V8 in the Urus and that car makes up for half the firm's sales.

Regarding the wet sump, it doesn't detract anything in street driving and has little, if anything, to do with a reduction in power. The engines in the GT range are just a bit different, more usable, less aggressive.

 

Are u sure ?
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No no no, this must be all wrong! Like therryzsx says, turbos are evil because they sound like hamsters running in a wheel. Just like the 488 Challenge, Pista, etc. which all sound so quiet and sad. Sometimes when I drive those I think I'm in a Toyota Prius.

Naturally I'm being sarcastic. I understand the romance for NA but "turbo is only one step from electric?". If that's true then it's a pretty big step!

 

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looks better in the wild

 

Ferrari has notoriously bad press images. As a designer myself, it always amazes me how bad their renders/images are

 

I don’t see any engine at all

 

Because Lamborghini in general has a better German (resources/technology), as part of VW group, it also has the industry’s first "supercapacitor-based hybrid supercar.

In general you are talking about a far more superior manufacturer in terms of everything! so it's not a fair competition!

 

It's not the engine, the engine is normal size, but it's the huge front hhha !!

 

so let's hope someone who have technology will buy Ferrari

 

They need to go back to Pininfarina first!

 

some new Ferrari are nice and some are ugly
last ugly was SP90 but we have more this good looking like Roma, Pista, 812

 

The SF90 is a pure ugliness!

Pista is a beauty in its maximum, but it's NOT their design, it's just a facelift of the 488 which is also another facelift of the 458, which was designed by Pininfarina.

Their first pure work of design was the SF90 !!. And as for the ROMA, it's a beautiful design but not solid enough though!, looks very slimier to AM, and though I love it, but with “a lot of thinking” and seeing more people reactions, I can't say it's solid enough, it's very beautiful and elegant but the design doesn't speak like a Ferrari. It needs some minor details to be perfect (rounded taillights etc..), as many still mistaken it easily for any AM or a JAG. I HATE THIS!