They are all sold, so clearly there is a market for such cars. Ferrari cannot be be seen as lagging behind its rivals, unless it chooses not to compete in the hypercar sector, which would be a shame.
13 years ago there was idea of making car that weighs 1000 kg https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/ferrari-future
Well, how can you be bored considering that ferrari never takes part in this "horsepower race"? (at least in the last few decades ) Even with 488 pista they put on the table less actual power than an "oldest" 720s On the contrary, I'd say that Ferrari think of all except to raw performance/acceleration of his engines for quite time by now "Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engine" Enzo ferrari This, is the exact opposite of what Ferrari does today, c'mon
In order to have accurate readings you need to dyno the two cars on the same rolling road. Rolling roads are notoriously untrustworthy. For an accurate reading one needs a proper bench dyno, like the ones that car makers have.
They were sold at the peak of the market. If Aston launched a car now for 2.5-3 million pounds I am certain they would struggle to sell it Gordon Murray is not having a great time selling his... Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat
This is exactly what I and many others have asked for: less weight, naturally aspirated engine. Why? Drive a car. I felt it, for example, the first time I made a turn in the Speciale as compared to my Italia. It is road feel, it is control, it is fun. Weight destroys so much feel, so much enjoyment in moving the car, so very much of the essence of driving a supercar. On the naturally aspirated side, let me just say driving the FXXK Evo is like driving three different cars based on the driving mode your are in. Three different speeds into a corner, three different braking points. You become an accountant doling out electric bonuses and managing your budget throughout each lap. Please just give me your best and lightest naturally aspirated engine machine and let me drive!
How do people get allocations for such cars? Is there any guide? How many other Ferraris do they have to buy before they get allocation?
I wish Ferrari would focus on weight and driving dynamics. 800hp N/A V12 in a car that weighs 1100kgs would be amazing. I hope they dont go the way of the market with cars starting at $3m and less than 100 made or these cars will never be seen or driven on a track. But i will say this, it would be strange for the next one to have less power and cost a bit more only than the LaFerrari but then these are not rules set in stone, not even rules so they could do it if they wanted it.
If they can sell an 812 without a roof and windshield (Monza) for 1.5 millions, why wouldn't they sell a proper hypercar for 3 millions? At the end of the day, shouldn't Ferrari be the the pinnacle of all sports cars?
Probably been taking note of Gordon Murray's latest project. Gordon Murray Design Modest power (around 650), high rpm (12,000), light weight (980kg), and a manual transmission (not likely Ferrari will follow that bit !). It's all about the visceral experience and the enjoyment of driving, rather than a pissing contest and playing the big numbers game. Leave that to likes of Bugatti & Koenigsegg ! Personally I would rather cars like this where you can actually use most, if not all the power & performance, rather than strapping yourself into a rocket and only being able to tickle it.
That is very interesting. The McLaren F1 is one of my all time favorite cars that isn't a Ferrari. The price is seriously jacked though!
A tiny production run of extremely bespoke specialised performance cars - unfortunately you are always going to have pay the premium ! Mind you, there is the Gordon Murray factor
The Pantera P72 is another project with a similar design brief and a relative bargain of a starting price point at sub 1 million.
If the market is doing what I think it is, there is no way any manufacturer will be able to sell a hypercar for $3m in a couple of years, unless it is a build of under 50. this is not 2016 anymore, the market is a lot softer. I am sure Ferrari will take this into account, they are experts in gauging demand and price points. If I had to guess I’d say Ferrari will want a run of 500-600 with another 200-250 as an open top variant and will price it around $2m tops. So a healthy increase over the LaF, but not big enough to prevent the car from being a stable/appreciating asset Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat
Agreed. As i wrote earlier ... we can all wish for lower weight, more power, a more raw or visceral driving experience, etc but what Ferrari cares MOST about is: carbon emissions It's a brave new world out there, whether we like it or not.
If Ferrari cared only about CO2, they would be making electric cars. They care about performance, feeling AND reduction of emissions.