this sounds tremendous. Almost naturally aspirated. What a great high end shriek. I’ll be curious to see what is required for installation.
That sounds sooo much better. Just wouldn’t want to deal with a voided warranty. I wish there was a way for Ferrari dealers to not void the warranty. This would push me over to the F8 purchase I have been scratching my head with. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Perhaps they are referring to using their valved muffler with the piggy back ECU? Anyway going by their website it looks like their stage 2 and 3 tune offerings are for their high flow cats or with removed cats /gpf /valves/muffler/ altogether. I imagine the white car has either high flow or no cats and has no muffler or gpf using the proper X pipe which has no valves. It's been discussed on car forums previously that piggy backs are not undetectable by the main ECU and a VAL will reveal that. This is the main issue where your factory warranty is concerned. I think it's good that Novitec have provided a level of options and I expect Kline Capristo and others will offer similar packages as they do now for Pista BUT are they guaranteeing the Piggy back is completely undetectable by the ECU? This is what I would be asking for in writing. Perhaps email them and get the full picture before you proceed. And ask what set up is on the white car as I think you will find it is using the x pipe with no valves and possibly high flows or no cats as the volume increase really only happens once the cats are changed I'm told. And the higher pitch comes with the use of the proper X. Novi quote their muffler as deepening the tone, the x is the one that gives the higher pitch. This is where I think the Kline is superior because you can have the proper X pipe with the two small valved mufflers - which is best of both worlds. And, in Inconel which also changes the pitch further. If its all about sound quality with an increase in volume then the best result would be the Kline Inconel X pipe with the valved mufflers and the high flow 200 cel cats. The loudest would be 100 cel cats or cat delete.
I have a quote for the system and it’s available with and without HFC. The car in the video has cat delete and the system has valve control to tone it down when need be. It does not require a tune. Just a OBD plug in takes care of the error light. Very tempting....
It’s not the Ferrari dealers...the warranty is not with the dealer. The Ferrari warranty is with the manufacturer, Ferrari, not the dealer.
Exactly. This is the dilemma. And you can't cheat the VAL. And if something happens in the drive train anywhere a VAL is a necessary requirement for the manufacturer. This is the main thing holding me back from changing the high flow cats on my Pista.
I don’t blame you. Even lowering on after market springs will on void warranty more than just the shocks. All suspension, axles, transmission voided. My dealer sells, installs Novitec but when I asked what it affects on warranty I was warned of these and possibly other things Ferrari would and could void. Ots not just Ferrari either...I am not coming down on them as I know Porsche is even more strict with mods and voiding warranty.
Detection and the ability to detect has become a focal point and specialty for Ferrari and Porsche these days. They have it sewn up so tight nothing slips through their net. The bigger problem for F8 is that removing, tampering or reducing the efficiency of a pollution saving device has legal ramifications so it makes it even easier to say NO WARRANTY! If anyone wants to claim a piggyback is undetectable then I'd personally insist upon that in writing along with an undertaking that they also pick up the warranty if the manufacturer proves them wrong. From what I was shown, the exhaust is Ferrari's first go to for any drive line related problem. They don't pay the dealer anything without a VAL being done and cleared first inc photos of every area of the car they request. The other thing you toss away is the goodwill aspect. If you are the initial buyer I've found Porsche has an excellent goodwill policy even outside of warranty so long as they determine there has been no mods and the car always serviced by the book. Ferrari has never had it so good or easy to walk from warranty now they are supplying cars that sound like an LPG gas bottle valve being opened and with ride heights of SUV's. It's like they have deliberately stacked the deck. It sure makes it tough for the buyer who paid good money and just want their car sounding and looking proper. Sucks.
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Sorry. I've never asked. I think it'd be less risky changing the coils than screwing with the emissions systems/exhaust on the car. That one I'm told will knock you right out of play. I'd probably try lowering it using the factory coils first. There must be plenty of lee way looking at the super high stock ride height.
I lowered mine on factory springs and was told it does not void warranty. The more I think about it, I should probably get that in writing.
I think if you guys go changing anything with the cars in today’s environment you should expect the possibility of a voided warranty. A F8 comes out of warranty the very first thing to do is get that exhaust put on the car.
for sure...they might claim it significantly impacts the offroad capabilities of the F8, which the original ground clearance was intended for
My dealer did it before they even delivered the car to me. I think I would have a good case if they pushed back. and I agree
Lowering it with or without springs still requires removal of the shock assembly and adjustment of the preload plus alignment to do it properly. If you have some kind of issue with the car, you'd have to pull out all the shocks and reset and re-align to claim you did not change the calibration. So doing it right with the proper springs designed by a spring company just for this purpose is the only way to do it correctly IMO. Unless you just can't stand the looks and don't care about calibration.
