Rock 'n Stroll . . . The Stroller Thread.

P S I just stumbled on the thread having acquired a significant personal interest in Racing Point due to buying shares in Aston Martin Lagonda Global Holding PLC which will turn Racing Point into the Aston Martin factory F1 race team next season.

It is not just because Lawrence Stroll made a huge investment in A.M. became Chairman and essentially controls both the Company and the race team. As I am sure everyone here knows, Mercedes-Benz supplies engines to Aston for their street cars; M-B also owns shares in Aston, its new CEO came to Aston from being CEO of Mercedes AMG and finally, Toto Woolf bought a multi-million Euros worth of Aston Martin shares last spring.

Shares have been trading in New York around US $0.75/ share so for $750. one can own a thousand shares of Aston Martin Lagonda Global Holding PLC like Toto! ;-) Hope this hasn't side-tracked the thread.

 

I will take half your commission for this well placed but so SUBTLE advert lol

 

LMAO ROF!

confession: i am SUBTLE like a sledgehammer

butt - didn't intend to advertise, I just thought that all you Stroll fans would like to feel like owners of an F1 team for very modest cost. The fact that it might involve the Stroll and his dad in your lives is irreverent.

 

Wow. I didn't know that Alfa had twice as many points as HAAS.

 

But only 2 more than Williams !

 

Racing Point would be way ahead of they didn’t receive that ridiculous 15point penalty in the brakeductgate fiasco.


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What is ridiculous is that anyone(FIA) accepts the explanation for how they created a carbon copy of the Mercedes. IMO they should be stripped of all WCC points.

 

Teams have been copying each other’s cars and their winning components forever.

eg The first Haas was a Ferrari, that’s why they came out of the gate so strong and then faded as they started to modify the design. Do you think Red Bull and Alpha Tauri (Torre Rosso) don’t share research and information? When you use a part and/or pay for the IP in 2019 that was legal and how do you lose the knowledge the following season? I agree that RP can not use a 2020 designed brake duct because they are listed, but last year’s parts should be legal. Makes no sense, just makes Ferrari look like a poor loser because they are not doing well. I am a true Ferrari enthusiast,but believe they are not using their resources in the best manner and cannot afford the distraction and poor loser image.


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Something similar could have been applied to the (likely illegal) Ferrari engine (which lost so much power last year after a TD was issued). Ferrari could/should have been stripped of all points earned that year AND how it had been done announced to the world.

 

Ferrari's engine wasn't illegal.

 

Hummm, there was certaily something very dodgy about it, that deserved the FIA attention.
Money changed hands in secret, and the 2020 Ferrari engine is obviously less powerful than last year.
In the absence of explanation, anyone is entitled to believe that Ferrari was cheating, and that the whole affair has been swept under the carpet.

 

The FIA allows theory and conspiracy to grow and needless. If the motor had to be altered to such a state it was by default illegal it seems.

 

Duplicating the entire car? It's never been done before. I don't buy the explanation by Tracing Point and Mercedes either--my dog ate my homework.

 

We are half-way through the 2020 season, and the FIA hasn't yet declared the Racing Point car illegal.
So, what's the problem?
People don't like Mercedes or Lawrence Stroll and have found another angle to get at them; that's the only explanation I can find.

 

Ferrari found a loophole with the 1st fuel flow sensor.....hence as to why there is a 2nd fuel flow sensor.

 

Admitting this was true, Ferrari was doing something illegal then.
If not why did they do a secret deal with the FIA?

 

So when FIA placed another fuel flow meter* in the circuit Ferrari lost power big time,
and you want to stipulate that the Ferrari engine was not using more fuel than allowed by the rules !?!?!

(*) one that could not be easily tricked.....by sampling the fuel flow rate at random instants in time.....

The other teams put in the added meter and none of them lost power.....

The evidence points to the engine being illegal--but illegal in a way that was not easily detected.....

 

The first fuel flow meter measured fuel flow 2,000 times a second. In order to push more fuel through the meter one needs an oscillating fuel flow pressure synchronized to the fuel sample rate, so when the meter is measuring the fuel flow is acceptable, and when it is not, more fuel can flow.

The second fuel flow meter samples at random points in time, and thus a mechanical fuel pump cannot be made that increases and decreases pressure coordinated with the metering--whereby it could with the simple fixed timing fuel flow metering.

 

In view of this, it's simply common sense to assume that Ferrari was cheating.

Pretending otherwise is just insulting our intelligence.

 

We are talking about the same FIA that went to the Tracing Point factory, to inspect the car, particularly the brake ducts that they had complaints about (to prove that the car was in fact, copied), and ''forgot'' to inspect the brake ducts? That FIA? That FIA hasn't declared the car illegal yet?

Yes I am as confused as you are.

 

Haas weren’t even allowed to talk about brake ducts with Ferrari from last year while R.P. got another complete unit to inspect from Merc this year illegally. Is Stroll paying you to spout such nonsense? And if it wasn’t for a previous employee and the protests we would have never known. Unreal

 

Tic toc

 

Monza 2020

Stroll P3

He lost it on the 2nd start of the race.

 

Still a podium isn't too bad.

 

Fantastic drive by Lance who is now 4th in the driver's standings!

Was great to see him on the podium.