I would consider it, all depends on the styling and keeping in line with Ferrari's strong sports car lineage.
If anyone is interested with some infos of Dyno 720s this is a nice description. (i dont have any relationship with this companie, nor business, the only thing i know he is close the some stuff of Woking)
This guy seems to be spot own and anyone that's been around knows that dyno's can be tricked to show whatever the tuner or tech wants. To think the 720 and 765 will have the same power rating is silly.
A much better way to see in which hp level your car is, is a 200-300kmh run. Those 720s/Pista/F8 are all around 11-12sec, and that is were 720hp biturbo should be. A proper 800hp car will be im the high 9, to low 10sec for 200-300kmh (124mph-184mph). Assuming runway is flat and Temperature moderate, lets say DA of 500m/1500ft.
I agree. Another benchmark is 60-130mph or 100kmh to 209kmh which we use here in the states. 720 is about 5 seconds stock. I am betting 765 is in the 4's.
Look at the experience of Porsche with the 718 Cayman/Boxster. I have 488GTB, Portofino and 718 Boxster GTS. The Boxster 4 cylinder is fantastic (particular when tuned - APR) but it lacks the sense given by the 6 cylinder. As such, Porsche had to backtrack to the 6 cylinder on current GTS/GT4 and Spider. A lot of Ferraris are bought on emotional basis and as such a V6 is a mistake.
I agree, a V6TT Hybrid doesn't sound appealing. If you think the sound is weak with a V8TT I cant imagine a a V6TT being an improvement.
Pista/F8 are 5.5-6 seconds 60-130 depending on conditions. About .2-.5 seconds slower than a 720S consistently from the data I’ve seen. If the power is equal, then the weight difference accounts for this?
I measured my 720 between 5.1 and 5.3 on differentdays. I haven't measured my Pista yet but I'm thinking it will be as you say.
I live in the northern part of Europe, so where do you think I go for high speed runs? Autobahn maybe? Correct. I have Vmaxed everything I own including the Pista, 488, Lusso. I will be bedding race pads in the 488 tomorrow, let me see if I can get someone with me and shoot a high speed vid for you if the road are clear enough You have your opinion, I have mine. We are clearly not coming to an agreement. Enjoy your 790ho 720 Ciao
Ferrari has the same chassis since the introduction of the 458 and the main reason is that Ferrari is sick for profits. I still can't understand how the SF90 didn't release a new carbon chassis that can be extended to the entire rear mid-engine line.
NEVER , no matter how good it looks, no matter how fast it is. Frankly even if it was cheaper. My last New Ferrari will be the F8 or keep my 488GTB. I don't even like the new Roma with digital dash . Analogue TACO , Full stop. Add to that a V6 ,no way .
I think this is very narrow thinking. Ferrari will make a tremendous car. Every version has been better than the previous- yes that includes the 488 over the previous 458. I have no reason to believe that little brother won’t be every bit as epic. It will be different for sure and the Pistas and the F8s are going to be of another era but to be so close minded without even seeing the car is just a shame.
Will never understand why any car would have no A/C controls (via a screen, really?) Image Unavailable, Please Login
First of all, Ferrari has zero skill or ability to make the high voltage components of the electrical system, so, the drivetrain is no longer Ferrari, it's someone else's efforts. Next, any car that comes with an "Emergency Response Guide" with warning of serious injury due to the hybrid/electric drivetrain is out. Next, any car that highly recommends specific electric safety gloves for charging, in fact, gloves are supplied with the car, also, out. https://techinfo.ferrari.com/static/security It was not that long ago Luca Cordero di Montezemolo said Ferrari will not make an electric car, EU regulations are forcing that, not for the better at all, it is eliminating Ferrari's most notable competitive edge.
Here is Shmee150 with his TTV6 Ford GT with a titanium exhaust. Sounds good. I’d imagine the Ferrari will best it.
The future is bright. Embrace it. I plan on it. Just because I’m looking forward to further offerings doesn’t mean the present cars are diminished any. The current crop of cars can be great and the future cars can also be great. Im a glass half full guy.
Hope for the best, but, be prepared, EU noise regulations will make exhaust sounds a thing of the past...quiet will be the operative requirement. Expect more use of 'hot tubes' such as those in the F8 to pipe-in engine sounds directly to the cabin. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1124281_new-european-regulation-means-future-sports-cars-wont-be-as-loud
There are so many factors that determine dyno output that I wont get into. At the end of the day actual performance numbers tell the story. These numbers cant be fluffed.
Heck their non hybrid cars cant hold a charge. Why does a non electric car need to he plugged in? This is unheard of with any other car. I cant imagine what's in store for the SF90 and the soon to follow hybrids. I think I'll wait and see before placing an order.
Several components in Ferraris are always on, for instance, the emergency brake electronics, it's their design, and it does draw down batteries quicker than many other cars. But, plugged in once a week until topped off is usually sufficient for when the car is not being used regularly. We already know if La Ferrari's big battery is not continuously topped off it can lead to its failure, the SF90 may or may not have the same issue. Ferrari will need to figure this out and make battery maintenance a thing of the past if the FUV is to succeed (outside of a pure EV model, which likely will not be for many years).
Dyno Dynàmics eddy current dynos are very good dynos. I know of a few in the US, but Dyno Jet and Mustang are the most common over there. My local shop uses a Dyno Dynamics btw. It is true that one can do things to mess with what they show, but I doubt very much that was done with any of the tests I saw. Their shop is used by racers, not people doing runs for bragging rights. The 720 run I witnessed was definitely not a "hero pull". They ran consistent pulls for average numbers to make sure they knew what the car was doing under load when heat soaked. Do I know for a fact that McLaren will use the same power for the 765? Of course not, but it is speculated that they might. An alternative is that they run a bit more power up top, but give it a healthy bump in torque through the gears. When it comes to dyno runs I'm never shy about calling B.S when I see it. Inflated dyno numbers is a pet peeve of mine and I cannot stand it. I check temps, correction factors and all the rest of it. You couldn't get me to waste much time caring for a hero pull made on a P.O.S inertia Dyno Jet. An interesting fact about the 720 that was tested is that it was not there for tuning or power measuring. It was there for a "road test" as the owner wanted to change the throttle mapping and gear shifts. The full throttle runs were done as part ofvthat, it was not for bragging rights. Like I said, time will tell what the 765 will have to offer. I have nothing against the 720S, I'm just sharing my findings and thoughts. I will leave it at this and not get into it again. I was not interested in creating a fight. I'm simply sharing what I have like everyone else. Upwards and onwards. Sent from my SM-G930F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
