I realized that when I saw a video in slow motion of other two cars. F8 has incredible traction, but I still don't think it can beat the 911 Turbo S.
That could be rubbish advice. If you want to get into an F8 as cheap as possible, ok. If you want the full fat Ferrari purchase experience - the car is built the way it is because you decided, a little piece of Ferrari’s history is created by you, the excitement of the wait then the car’s arrival giving you a feeling of satisfaction and attachment no used car can provide, then used doesn’t work at all. Always depends what you want.
It does not currently exist as they just kept the 488 challenge and did not make a F8 version, there is also an announced 488 challenge evo which will come in 2022 so it really does not look like there will be a F8 challenge
Id also be very surprised if an F8 could even beat the 991tts from any dig and would only be able to reel it in over 100kph, and most street driving occurs under that anyway. The 992tts has only made it a whole lot tougher for the competition to reel it in on the street as now the comp will need to be prepared to push big speeds to get past it. The other thing with the Porsche is the superior precision of the controls and the superior brake modulation which again make it feel sharper and more nimble during general street type driving manoeuvers. I can’t think of another car on todays scale that could touch it. The thing with the tts is it doesnt need prep or warm ups to produce a win. It just grips and its gone.
The zeperfs comparison is interesting. http://www.zeperfs.com/en/match8614-7882.htm Zeperfs is a collection of all the times registered by leading European magazines using proper data recording kit - these guys are all very serious and a bit anal about this stuff. If you look at the 0-250kph stats, it shows what the F8 is doing. Important to remember that just because the F8 is significantly faster to 250kph than the 911 turbo S doesn’t mean it covers ground over a 1/4 mile quicker - that will depend on how quickly the earlier increments were achieved - for example, if a car is very slow off the line to get through 60, 80, 100, 150, but then bullets to 250, it will have been moving along the tarmac slowly for a big part of the time then passing the 1/4 mile mark at a much higher trap speed but the ‘slower’ car has already reached the 1/4 mile because it got through the increments quicker. You can see this is the story of the 911 Turbo S v the F8. 0-250kph (about 155mph) shows the F8 is about 2s quicker, 0-220kph (similar to 1/4 mile) is also 2s in the F8’s favour. It’s also interesting to notice that there is generally a greater degree of inconsistency in the Porsche’s increment times than the Ferrari. So, that tells us two things, which help to explain all the drag races from the various channels; first, the turbo is better off the line (no surprise) but slower afterwards (also no surprise - heavier and less power), meaning rolling road races would strongly favour F8. Second that there is less consistency with the 911 Turbo S’s times, supporting the fact that different side-by-side drag races could look very different, as we seem to be seeing. If you level up the traction so that the F8 can start better, it will beat the Turbo S. If the F8 spins early on, it can’t win. According to zeperfs the F8 v 720 gives 0-200 as 7.7 and 7.5 in favour of 720 and 0-300 as 19.9 and 19.6. Very tight...but, all the increments slightly favour the 720, so if it gets off the line as well as the F8, it should win. Some have questioned how effective its traction control is and it would take very little to reverse the result. Also interesting to note that the only track these magazines have times for both cars is Vairano and they are .2 s different, again in favour of the McLaren. I have read so much about carbon chassis being better, or Ferrari being newer, or more power than advertised in the McLaren or Ferrari being better on track. In the end, they are nearly identical. Does a 10 year old aluminium tub give a slower car than a carbon tub? No. Do Ferrari’s famed electronics and mechanical diff get you around a track quicker? No. Does Ferrari’s famous torque management on the 3.9l twin turbo unit get you around a track quicker? Also no. The F8 and 720 are direct competitors, both based on ageing platforms. Time for a new kid on the block. I’m so tempted to say “Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the SF90 Stradale.....”. But I won’t
To the end of 2021 roughly. Covid has changed things so a good guess is that the final cars will roll off the line pre August 2022 shutdown. Have you configured a car and have you placed a deposit? Sent from my SM-G930F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
why wait 2 years to get the “Ferrari experience”? You’re always saying live for the moment yadda yadda. Get the car sooner and enjoy it longer. I spec’d my first 458, bought my second used. No difference at all in my enjoyment of the car.
Not sure I ever said live for the moment - if you mean by that that it is better to drive the cars than not, well ok, that I certainly agree with. But the point is you can’t just say ‘buy used’ because for many people buying new is strongly preferable. Of course, there is nothing wrong in buying used either, whatever you prefer. If it didn’t make sense for anyone to buy used it sure would be expensive buying new!!
Yes full configuration has been complicated and we have paid the deposit. Now we are just waiting for the allocation, which their guess was Feb or March of 2021.
Well, it seems that it can. The recorded numbers back that up too. http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel7882-8614.htm
Great summary, and there are still people thinking the 720s makes 800hp and the F8 is spot on with 720 hp.... Hopeless
I said the same thing but if you don't want to wait and yo don't care about having the car the way you want it, you just want the car, just because you wanted, then it really doesn't matter.
Yes, they have upgrades everything from launch software and engineering, power and braking. Don't forget it is also all wheel steering...
Unfortunately this is heavily dependent on how busy your dealership is. The busier, more renowned and "famous", the longer it will take you to get your car, because there will be a ton ahead of you.
I saw that video. As you already know, the cab is heavier as the chassis has to be reinforced to add stability lost from the incomplete frame. Reason for which, I would never buy a convertible, you buy a heavier less of a car for more, just to be able to feel the breeze, get the bald spot burned and be seen... No thank you). However, I still find it hard to believe... Gonna have to see more evidence. With that said, if it is indeed true, I am already in for a bigger treat than expected.
Since the day that I rolled over, thankfully in a closed cockpit car, I vouched to never drive a convertible, in anger. That said, the zeperfs link proves that the coupe F8 is quicker than the coupe 992 TTS, so I guess you are in for a treat, sir.
I think Porsche look to have done a really great job with the TTS 992. If I only had a one car (plus daily) garage, I would never, I mean never pick it over the F8. As it is, it would be a tempting car and a great car to use, but I already have enough high-depreciation cars in my garage, don’t need another, good though I’m sure it is. Perversely, my now 2 and a half year old 10k+ Lusso feels like new, and will be cheaper to own from here. It’s therefore a better (doesn’t matter that it’s slower) choice all things told.
I have never bought a second hand car and never will. Same goes with everything else, houses included.
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