Was going to put in new fluid to try and help the transmission so that it wouldn't grind. Started with Redline 75w90NS... still grinding Was recommended to try Redline 75w80MTL Went to start the car and with the clutch pedal fully depressed it lurched forward (I was in 1st gear) Pulled it out of gear... started in Neutral. Started fine... will not go into ANY gear... grinds. So I thought, OK maybe it's the clutch cable? Got under the car adjusted it after going through some mysterious threads that had more to do with changing the clutch than adjusting the cable... but finally figured it out. Now I suspect the cable is probably TOO tight but definitely a much harder pedal in the car. Still lurches forward as if in gear. Still won't go into any gear. Please someone tell me what the heck is going on with this car... I'm about ready to give in.
So the car was operating fine with the existing gearbox oil in it. All this started simply by changing out the existing gearbox oil?
Does it go into gear when engine is off .. if so clutch .. maybe bearing or fork etc If it doesnt go into gear (any gear ) when off even with a little rocking ..trans Sent from my moto g(7) using Tapatalk
Ok I figured it out... sigh. After sitting and thinking, I remembered that I had cleaned around the transfer case because it was NASTY. Then thought... I wonder if some water go into the housing and the clutch is just frozen against the flywheel. YEP that was it! Sigh... again... so now after adjusting the cable, I'll "un adjust" the cable and then drain the fluid and start where I could/should have started early this morning. One of those days. I was really hoping that it WAS the clutch cable thinking maybe that was the complete cause of my grinding issue... but I guess not
YEP! A wet clutch disc will do that! The old "tranny in 1st, clutch pedal all the way down, brake pedal pressed HARD and start engine" will usually break it loose. In the old days if I drove through deep puddles in any of the manual tranny cars I owned - during rainstorm or whatever - and was nearly home when that happened, I would sit in the driveway, put car in high gear and slip the clutch a bit to heat it/drive out the moisture. Otherwise it would seize up overnight every time!
If Mike's suggestion above (starting in first with brakes on) doesn't work, I have got a few stuck clutches to release by doing the same but with a jack under the back and have someone drop the jack while the wheels are spinning and while you push in the clutch.) Do it with some space in front of the car as it will jump forward. The sudden shock through the system breaks it free.
Dumb question, but so I can learn something, how does water get into the system and clutch? Isn’t it a sealed system?
Water gets in between the clutch plates and flywheel ..this is all external Sent from my moto g(7) using Tapatalk
There are vent slots cut into the bell housing. Not likely going to get much rain water in there but easy to do if cleaning the area with water from a hose pipe. Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Yeah I was cleaning the gunk off of the bellhousing. It has a small window on the transfer case that allowed some water to get into there. I seriously doubt you'd have that issue unless you drove through some DEEP water.... I was completely stumped. But then I remembered cleaning it and thought.. AHA! I got it to break loose by putting it in 4th and just bumping the starter a few times. In 4th there's not enough gear to make you actually lurch or move so it's a good way to get a stuck clutch... unstuck. The real kicker... after I got it loose. I went to jack the car up again to loosen the clutch cable back to it's previous tension... the jack hydraulic broke... what a friggin day I had.
