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  1. william

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    #126 william, Nov 18, 2020
    Prost was a McLaren driver who had won 2 titles with TAG engines.
    Senna was a Honda driver who came from Lotus, bringing the Japanese engines with him.
    There was already a technical collaboration between the Brazilian and Honda engineers, some followed him at McLaren.
    So Prost became an outsider in the team, and thought he was receiving less powerful engine than his team mate.
    Ron Dennis didn't wan't to interfere with his engine supplier. Prost felt let down and left.
     
  2. SimCity3

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    #127 SimCity3, Nov 18, 2020

    Uncle Ron let slip his preference.

    It was Team Hamilton from Day 1.
     
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  3. ktu

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    #128 ktu, Nov 18, 2020
    Good point. Ron may have thought Hamilton was better than Alonso right from the start
     
  4. Natkingcolebasket69

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    #129 Natkingcolebasket69, Nov 18, 2020
    Nope it doesn’t, but one wouldn’t expect anything less from you the proud Brit and nationalist. It’s hard to have a conversation with someone whose love for the Queen make him so bias:)

    Alonso’s problem was ron Dennis- when he returned Ron was on its way out. That’s that. Ron left in 16? Alonso returned 15/16 and additionally no Ron Dennis.

    Second aside coulthard who was Scottish and a clear #2 driver , James Watson (lauda’s teammate)was Irish none of them were English in the example your provided and none of them were any good like Hamilton.

    So definitely not all destroyed. There is a bit of both in this situation- Hamilton being an excellent rookie, in a British team and British driver and Alonso expectations.


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  5. Natkingcolebasket69

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    #130 Natkingcolebasket69, Nov 18, 2020
    How so? They finished tied.


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    #131 Natkingcolebasket69, Nov 18, 2020
    Amen- William is one funny guy saying you have an agenda [emoji23]


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  7. ktu

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    #132 ktu, Nov 18, 2020
    Hamilton still beat him technically in the standings. Still, having a "rookie" tie you as a 2 time champ in his prime, still gives him nightmares.
     
  8. Natkingcolebasket69

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    #133 Natkingcolebasket69, Nov 18, 2020
    U also read that in the Sun magazine? ;) it’s also William’s secret favorite along with the mirror;)


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  9. CRG125

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    #134 CRG125, Nov 18, 2020
    Why I am not surprised by your response?

    Plus the amount of dollars Ron Dennis had invested in Hamilton through out his career getting him to F1.
     
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    #135 Natkingcolebasket69, Nov 18, 2020
    Speaking the truth here! I’ll wait for William’s manufactured response ;) [emoji38]


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  11. jpalmito

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    #136 jpalmito, Nov 18, 2020
    Sorry Senna didn’t bring the Honda engine to McLaren.
    Honda already decided to left Williams and wanted Piquet as first choice as teammate for Prost at McLaren.
    Prost pushed for Senna instead of Piquet because he thought Senna was a best long term choice for McLaren.
    Incredibly Prost thought McLaren was his family and wanted the best for the team.
    All of this his own words.
     
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  12. ktu

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    #137 ktu, Nov 18, 2020
    Yes its been stated time and time again that Dennis was invested in Lewis as he saw his special talent from carting, some drivers are so special you have no choice but to back them
     
  13. ktu

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    #138 ktu, Nov 18, 2020
    Read what in the Sun magazine?
     
  14. Natkingcolebasket69

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    #139 Natkingcolebasket69, Nov 18, 2020
    That he has nightmares


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  15. ktu

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    #140 ktu, Nov 18, 2020
    Oh yeah, you're right. Alonso wrote that article.
     
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    #141 Natkingcolebasket69, Nov 18, 2020


    Who knew this was already not fiction;)
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  17. ktu

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    #142 ktu, Nov 18, 2020
    lol, man they like teenagers
     
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  18. Mitch Alsup

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    #143 Mitch Alsup, Nov 18, 2020
    Thre is this word called "class" that comes to mind........

    a) because Alonso still wants to drive F1 cars !!
    b) because Ron Dennis is no longer there !!
    c) because Alonso was offered a seat ..
     
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    #144 CRG125, Nov 18, 2020

    First of all it's spelt Karting not carting. Secondly, part of the reason that he invested early on was because of his ethnic/race background. Diversity in the sport was becoming important. I have seen very special drivers in the sport that have not made it. No one is going to just write you a check early on in your career no matter how good you are.
     
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  20. SimCity3

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    #145 SimCity3, Nov 18, 2020

    :D

    The irony is special
     
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  21. ktu

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    #146 ktu, Nov 18, 2020
    Lol man you funny
     
  22. Natkingcolebasket69

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    #147 Natkingcolebasket69, Nov 18, 2020
    Hamilton had/has a lot of talent he definitely deserved being invested in as his results shown, it was also a positive thing he is bi-racial for sure.


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  23. CRG125

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    #148 CRG125, Nov 18, 2020
    Thanks, glad I made you laugh.
     
  24. ktu

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    #149 ktu, Nov 18, 2020
    No, I thank you!
     
  25. jpalmito

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    #150 jpalmito, Nov 18, 2020
    Do you believe Hamilton is fundamentally a more complete driver than Alonso ?
     
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