Rock 'n Stroll . . . The Stroller Thread.

Effect of age is relative, of course; the greatest one, Juan Manuel Fangio, was 46 when he won the last of his five F1 World Championships in the race cars of four
different manufacturers. Alfa Romeo, Mercedes (twice), Ferrari and Maserati. But Fangio was clearly freakish.

 

Well and it was a very different era. With less physical strains on the drivers and many of the drivers were gentlemen driver. Back in those days a lot of risk taking went a far way.

 

yep, this.

 

Oh? 'Not how I remember it.

 

I think they talk about the G forces when cornering, and the neck muscles you need to have now.
Also most modern drivers undergo a lot of physical training like other athletes, wich was unknown in the 50s and early 60s.

Welcome back, BTW.

 

Exactly. Look at the physical aspects of those drivers, some of them were simply fat. The one thing I do give them physically is that they must have had strong arms: With no seat belts and no body contouring seats they needed some upper body/arm strength to not bounce around in the cockpits. And the clutches were probably as heavy as a case of beer to push.

 

Just checking in to say "yeah, fer sure!"

 

Turkish GP analysis by Autosport:

 

Wrong on most counts; no automobile controls were powered, the cars were rough and much more difficult to drive and control. Several drivers were dying every season, and while there were indeed 'gentleman drivers' many were mechanics and dedicated amateurs of the motor car and racing.

 

Huh?

Did you actually read what I wrote? Look at post #4379 to which I agreed and my post #4380. We're basically saying the same thing.

"the cars were rough". Yes, as I said you needed strong upper body strength to hold on and some good legs to push the heavy clutch and brake pedals.

"Several drivers were dying every season". Yes, that's why I said they had primarily to be huge risk takers.

"Dedicated amateurs" is the definition of a gentleman driver in my book. Otherwise they'd be professionals as they are today.

Bottom line is: If you think I'm wrong on most counts for what I wrote, well, look at your own posts.

 

They were huge risk takers en-the-large by being in the sport.
But they were much less aggressive on the track due to wanting to stay alive.

 

People dying is a very bad measure for excitement or risk. Not too long ago people were dying from common colds or having a cut on their toe. Speeds & G-forces (along with the necessary safety measures) have gone up dramatically, man's physiology has not changed. The ones turning the wheel today are much better trained athletes, though they lack the indulgent, nostalgic veil of times gone by.

 

Bahrain Qauli 2020

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Another world class performance from Stroll in quali. Convenient to blame the team for his issues as usual.

 

They must not have fixed his mysterious front wing damage from the last race.

 

My bad Andreas, must have been replying with crossed eyes to another post; your pardon.

 

Equally convenient for the nay-sayers to blame the driver, no? Clear pit wall error this one, they should have pitted him for fresh softs.

 

The pit wall errors started a long time ago with the decision to put him in the seat to begin with.

 

Yeah, it's a tough decision when it's his own team.

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Bahrain 2020

So Lance was taking his "Stroll" during the race and ended up upside down in the race after having an incident with Kvyat at the apex in the corner.

Kvyat serves a 10sec. penalty AND gets 2 points added to his racing license.

Incidentally, isn't this Lance's 3rd incident within weeks with someone at the apex in corner?? (Norris and Max in T1 in Turkey??)

I get it....he is still learning.....please.

 

Wasn't his fault in all three cases.

Kvyat is an idiot and got away too easy on that one.

 

As much as the Stroll detractors must have loved seeing his car upside down yesterday the fact is that it was a racing incident that was not his fault.

Kvyat had most of his car over the curbs before impacting Stroll and it was not due to him trying to avoid anything. His penalty was well earned.

 

Again I think Kvyat should have been given a much bigger penalty.

Looking forward to next weekend. It's obvious from Q1 that Stroll bonds well with this track as evidenced by his P2 time. So hopefully on Saturday his team will put the right tires on his car and he can advance to Q3 and start the race more from the front and less from the back away from idiots like Kvyat.

 

Possibly not his fault but "leaving the door open" is something he likes to do it appears. Just ask Max. In some circumstances he is asking for trouble with this habit. Again - lack of race craft apparent, at fault or not!!!!!!!!

 

I agree with his lack of race craft, but the same can be said of Kvyat. I mean, he literally hit the plastic pole on the inside of the corner to be able to hit Stroll! The only reason Kvyat clipped the corner like that, was because he absolutely botched the turn before bumping all over the place of the kerb. Kvyat should have yielded at that point, no way you are gonna make an overtake stick after 2 horrible turns like that.