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  1. ragtop1

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    I had my alternator rebuilt. They replaced the bearings and voltage regulator. The tech demonstrated the bench test to me, indicating a 14.2 volt charge. When I reinstalled it back in the car, It read 16.5 volts at the battery. I believe that's a dangerously high input.
    Any ideas ? I don't see a voltage regulator on the 308 wiring diagram.
    Thank you
     
  2. Imatk

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    The voltage regulator should be on the outside of the alternator. You can also buy adjustable voltage regulators here:

    https://www.prancingmoose.com/AdjustableVoltage.html#internal


    I got one for my VW which has a Bosch unit... I'm guessing it's similar if not the same as the 308 regulator but you can always email him... he's good about getting back with folks.
     
  3. ragtop1

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    Thanks Imatk
    Yes, Should have explained better. I was referring to a possible secondary regulator in the car electricals, apart from the one on the alternator. Anyway thanks for the feedback and the link. I definitely like the external adjustable one.
     
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  4. BigTex

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    That's odd, I don't think there is any items in the circuit past the output on the unit..

    Anyone??
    Something changed on the way home?

    Grounded to the frame??
     
  5. Dancia

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    I believe the only voltage regulator is a (replaceable) part of the alternator.
    I would check voltage at the battery and the alternator big wire.

    I can’t think of another regulator.

    Or where are you seeing / testing 16+ Volts?


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  6. ragtop1

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    Yes, I agree. There isn't anything beyond the alternator per the wiring diagrams that I have. My main concern is why is the alternator showing 14.2 volts at the repair shop test bench and 16.5 volts installed on my car at the battery? ....car idles at 1000 rpm
    The windows sure go up and down a lot faster
     
  7. ragtop1

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    I'm reading 16.5 volts at the battery. I will put my meter on the live alternator post tomorrow .. Good idea
     
  8. Lawrence Coppari

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    What does your meter read at the battery when the engine is not running?
     
  9. mike32

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    Also what happens when you put a big load on like the headlights and heater motor
     
  10. Brian Harper

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    I'm curious what your battery voltage is when the car is off.
     
  11. ragtop1

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    battery is reading 12.9 volts - not running
     
  12. ragtop1

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    12.9 volts not running
     
  13. ragtop1

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    12.9 volts with a load
     
  14. ragtop1

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    I reterminated the two connections at the alternator and starter with new ones as they were showing signs of corrosion. the reading at the battery while runnining is now 13.8. i don't know what changed but I'm quite pleased with the readings now. The cable running from the alternator to the starter seemed to be the culprit.
     
  15. miketuason

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    13.8 is kind of low but barely enough to charge the battery, you should have at least 14.2 volts. While running.
     
  16. ragtop1

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    Thanks Mike, I check the belt tension
     
  17. mike32

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    Would not expect that if stopped, as its a 12 volt battery. Decent voltmeter ?
    Voltage regulator is working as the volts are maintained when you put the lights/ heater on. If it had dropped then avr problem
     
  18. ragtop1

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    I did take readings with 2 different meters. they were about 0.15 > 0.20 volts apart. I'll check again today since it's been sitting overnight without the trickle charger. thanks
     
  19. Luis A.

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    A flooded “12 volt” lead acid battery will read ~12.7 Volts at full capacity, when measured after it’s been off the charger or load for a few hours. An AGM battery will be higher, at around 12.8-12.9. A 12.0 volt reading would correspond to a state of charge of 25% capacity, nearly completely discharged.
     
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  20. mike32

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    I have got a little digital voltmeter that plugs into the power socket, gives a number readout like a neon style, very cheap from Amazon. Handy to have if you get problems on the road
     
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  21. Brian Harper

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    What voltage are you expecting?
     
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    Mine has a standard battery and 11.8 is about normal if its been sitting, But mine has a tracker fitted which is a constant draw. I get about 13.8 when it is running
     
  23. ragtop1

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    I like what I'm hearing. If Mike32 is happy with a 13.8 running charge (my reading also) I'll accept it for the time being. Although 14.2 is more desirable per miketuason's remarks, I'll try this for now. I'm very pleased that it's not reading 16.5 running any longer.
    I'm a pro at changing out the alternator now. I think I've had it off and on at least 5 -6 times, and 2 trips to the rebuild shop to get this sorted. Thank you all for your input
     
  24. mike32

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    Any alternator only needs to produce more than the battery nominal volts to charge it. If you start getting the charge volts too high you are going to start blowing bulbs etc.
     
  25. Brian Harper

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    That's your battery telling you it's time to replace it if it can't hold a charge at at least 12.2. A new healthy battery will be a lot closer to 13V.
     

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