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Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by Newman, Dec 8, 2011.

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  1. spike308

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    this thread started in 2011.... same owner still?
    If so... very patient owner! I love looking at these resto threads! but I don't think I could wait 8 years!
     
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  2. turbo-joe

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    great word creation :)
     
  3. Newman

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    Finding one is the problem. I knew who made it and Ill keep looking but I haven't been as lucky as you.
     
  4. turbo-joe

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    when I remember right mercedes in the S class from about 1969-1976 had the same, but not sure, too long ago to remember and not daily used to
     
  5. pshoejberg

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    There are still a couple for sale on fleabay. Search with ranco + pressure + G23. One question for you Newman; The inlet / outlet piping om your NOS condenser, are these supposed to stand in black paint or unpainted?

    Best

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  6. Newman

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    The condenser is supposed to be natural, a combination of galvanized steel, aluminum and copper. Its just a condenser from an industrial cooler in a grocery store but but with lines that determine the application.

    Thanks Ill check again
     
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  7. Newman

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    Thank you!

    I bought one just now! And just like the condenser being industrial it referred to this item as refrigeration control.
     
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  8. dwhite

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    Fchat at it's best; members sharing information & ideas.
     
  9. Spitfire

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    Well done guys, and yes indeed, this is a prime example of fchat working at its best; members helping each other out of tight spots.

    And in answer to spike308 ... yes, I'm the same owner, and yes, the 8 year wait has been a long one. But she'll be running soon enough and it will all have been worthwhile.
     
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    More treasure, ready for delivery to Paul later this week.

    The steering wheel was completely disassembled so that the aluminum hub could be re-anodized, after which a new wooden core and leather were applied. I suspect we may be less than happy with the texture of the leather.

    We also have NOS speaker grills, an NOS gas cap, an NOS rear view mirror, a couple of NOS interior lights, a pair of luggage strap retainer bracket thingies, a reproduction distributor cap (fine for shakedown tests etc.) and a pair of Sam's wonderful fuse blocks.

    I get a bit nervous when making such deliveries to Paul since I often have a couple of parts which, although NOS, aren't necessarily 100% correct for a '76 Boxer.
     
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  11. MS250

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    Wow .... wow , most love affairs don’t last this long ;)

    At least you see light at the end of the tunnel now. Hopefully it’s everything you dreamed of ! Tell Paul to move his butt and stop slow walking it :)

    Look forward to your maiden drive review and pictures
     
  12. turbo-joe

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    but this also could be a coming train;)
     
  13. dwhite

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    Regarding the steering wheel. What's that cost? A couple pounds? . . . . . . .



    . . . of gold.


    I need a redo on an original wheel for my 84. I drive it with an aftermarket, because I dispise the correct wheel so much. Feels like a bus wheel and they used it on the TRs.


    That car is spectacular Paul is doing for you. You will be the envy of all 365 GT4 BBs. Should be a great drive first time out.
     
  14. turbo-joe

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    and during the first test drive a young guy will crash in your car :( and has not even an insurance :(
    I once was dreaming about this before I went with a fully restored car on a public road - terrible dream ! ! !
    for luck my dream came not true
     
  15. 2dinos

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    It's a pretty real concern. I just picked up my car which was getting some minor upholstery work done. I was in no hurry, and allowed the shop all the time it wanted, so it took about 7 months. To bring the car the ~40km home, I planned the day / time / weather / analyzed google traffic patterns, and was driving home exceedingly careful trying to enjoy it, when on the highway, 2 cars on both sides of me both tried to change lanes into my lane in front of me just as they passed. Why??? Nothing happened other than the crazy fright!

    I've found the best traffic opportunities when major sporting events are going on.
     
  16. Newman

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    As a comparison to the 365 boxer back to black thread you can see what was once a PCV system that has now become a place for the cold start fuel enrichment manifolds. The enrichment solenoids are added to the unthreaded holes in the 365 carbs and a fast idle solenoid is now mounted on a rod bolt access cover plate. The throttle shaft gained a lever to up the idle speed when "choke" is turned on.

    The enrichment manifolds on this car have a tall vertical pipe, later cars they refined them with a shorter pipe with a bubble flare on the end. This was the first version, the first road car to receive this arrangement, pretty cool stuff. Even the dry sump tank is a little crude compared to other carb'd boxers. They were learning and we were the beta testers.

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  17. Spitfire

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    Morning fellow fchatters. Since our flat 12 engines are undeniably beautiful, and since mine will soon be nestled safe and sound beneath its clamshell, I thought it might be nice to commission some professional photography before Paul does the deed.
     

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  18. pshoejberg

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    Pure engine porn, so nice. Congratulation with the result.

    Best, Peter
     
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  19. Edward 96GTS

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    no. full photo is available but you need to swipe the pic.
     
  20. Spitfire

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    Sorry guys, I was being dense, I just need to zoom Firefox out a bit! I'll post a couple of additional shots later, I'm pretty pleased with the results :)
     
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    Great shot! Love the way the last header pipe curls around the tranny output flange.

    The pic also brings to mind a thought: understand that the boxer sitting atop the gearbox is not an “optimized” use of a boxer—i.e., sitting on the floor would be better—but I don’t imagine the combined engine/gearbox CG would be higher than a narrow angle V12, with an oil sump raising the crank centreline, yes?
     
  22. Spitfire

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    Yes, you can easily see how the gearbox caused the flat 12 lump to be elevated, which is clearly not optimal. I don't know to what extent this adversely affected the COG, but I imagine others on fchat might have the answer? Meanwhile, here's some more engine porn ... low numbers on the various stampings:
     

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  23. 4right

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    Amazing pictures!! These engines are truly works of art. Paul, post #822. Are those brake cooling ducts next to the flash to pass lights? Was that a standard option for early Boxers?
     
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  24. Newman

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    All boxers had front brake cooling ducts. The brake cooling ducts on your car were added by Foitek Garage in Zurich when the car was new. The original location for the injected car's ducts are the two oval openings tucked in under the grill opening just above the spoiler below the flash to pass lights. They fed straight to an oval opening in the forward splash shield ahead of the wheel that just put air in the general area to help brake cooling. The carb'd 512 had a much larger scoop in the corner of the grill opening beside the fog light that looked like a funnel and was ducted to the same location as the injected car but had a round opening ahead of the wheel. The 365 had a tiny tube in the corner of the grill opening. I would say the injected car had the most effective setup, yours is crazy though. You can fit your arm in the duct and its directly plumbed to the back side of the rotors like a race car.
     
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