812 VS Rumors

Hi all. I’ve asked before but haven’t really had any response. What is the guesstimate for 812gts production. From what I understand the 812 gts is limited to a 2.5 year production. If the speciale version of the 812 amount to 1500 cars or so and they are built on the same line and are time limited? what would be the GTS number?
The speciale will be amazing no doubt but for mere mortals it would be nice to know the GTS number.
Thanks.

 

I don’t have an exact answer to that question however what I can tell you for a fact is that the 812 SF ( coupe) was produced for about 2.5 years and over 5000 were made. So imho I see no reason why the gts should be limited to just 1500 when the V12 was freed up by both the lusso v12 and SF no longer being in production. Finally that shows us that Ferrari have the capacity to dump 2500+ v12 in a year if they want to... some food for thought for those who wonder how many 812vs can be produced between now and end of 2022 ( my guess as to when it stops being produced)

 

I was saying approximately 1500 of the special versions of the 812 both coupe and aperta not GTs. Assuming they all finish (GTS, 2 special versions) by end of 2022 and they can make 2500 v12’s per year and the gts started around summer of 2020 (pandemic delays as well), would it stand to reason that gts would be around 4K? Of course pure guesstimate.

 

I think the reason the 16M never took off was the sloppy single clutch gearbox is a compromise.


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5000 seems high. They produce about 160 V12’s per month. Production runs 11 months. That’s 4400 units over 2.5 years less 500 Monza’s, less X number of Lusso V12’s produced during that time.


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If I’m not mistaken Marcel Massini confirmed over 5000 812 SF higher in that thread.

 

Spot on as usual

 

me neither - the term mono-culture was coined for this type of place and attitude - you dont have to guess which state ascribes to this idea

 

V-12 line does 10 cars per day, so probably slightly more than 160 per month?

 

BINGO!

 

812 GTS numbers are around 1500-1800 total production... I heard lower from 2 F dealers so I bumped it a bit.

 

No way 5000 produced

 

States. Plural. Many.

 

I actually think it was cause the economy was in terrible shape in 2009 especially in the USA. I would be surprised if they built the full 499 (or was it 430) I also think It just was not an improved car over the Scuderia ... ..the transmission is great it is in the scud and 599Gto .. and not at all a compromise... of course the new ones are better but that is the way it works anyway ...

 

Worldwide over 5000 apparently, however, fewer than 1,100 for USA (per NHTSA recall indicating 1,063 production through June 15 2020)

 

@JTSE30 There is a whole thread in the V8 section discussing this exact topic. The general consensus was that the number of Pista Spiders produced is in the 800-1200 range. If there were 500 or less Pista Spiders produced then Ferrari would have numbered them and called it Pista Aperta.
It seems like Ferrari is going to produce 800-1200 812 VS coupes which will not be numbered (similar to Pista Spider) and 500 or so VS Apertas which will be numbered.

 

I think if it was to produce 800/900 cars it would be numbered. If they don't number it is because they want to keep the option to make up to 1500/2000 depending on demand..

 

I feel that what Ferrari is doing is selling to all the people who could not get a TdF the chance to finally own an equivalent car , but that would not be equivalent because they would make so many more. It's a bit like when people bought the pistas/spiders with the speciale/apertas in mind but with a very different outcome...

 

What multiple US F dealers have stated is:

1200 812 GTS
812 812 VS coupes
270-288 812 VS Apertas

 

That is a tiny number of Apertas...If true there will be an absolute frenzy for this car


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I guess its possible but then Ferrari will probably bump the price to the $1MM+ category. The more I think about it the more I find it difficult to believe that they would make the VS Aperta more limited than the Icona which is their official limited and numbered model line....

 

Sorry Marcel,

I wasn’t so clear.

812 SF has been a very successful seller and now the sales have slowed down which is typical after a high production run and availability of used vehicles.

Also there is so much choice in the Ferrari world.

Roma
SF90
812GTS

May the Horse be with you

 

Well multiple US dealers said you needed to buy a Lusso to get a Pista, you needed to buy a Cali T to get a 488 Spider and so on. All that turned out to be false and oh yes, you needed to buy an 812 to get the GTS. Wait, you didn't buy an 812, right? LOL! Dealers don't tell the truth, that's real simple so I really don't believe any of these numbers until it's all said and done.

 

No one ever told me that I had to buy an SF to get a GTS and I know quiet a few people who got Pista's without Lussos or Cali Ts.
I do agree that dealers are not always accurate, but this is also very dependent on your relationship with your dealer.

 

It is especially dependent on what kind of relationship the dealer has with the factory, if any. Some dealers don't even know where Maranello is and have never been to Italy. Not kidding.

Marcel Massini