The real F40 with VIN 90969? (2nd is 85397)

I agree, I have no idea if the blue F40 has anything to do with any crashed example. I may have seen the blue F40 here in Dubai at some point in the past, but did not take any photos.

Are there examples of transactions where cars have assumed the identities of other cars to hide the history of a fatal crash? I guess the duplication only has to go undiscovered long enough to receive payment for the car. Sad.

 

Yes, I know of at least two cases, one from 1958 and one from 1970.

Marcel Massini

 

I did wonder if the blue car was actually still in Dubai, as the import duties and vat to bring it into the UK would have been considerable (unless it came in under classic status). The background in the photos though did seem to appear as if they were taken in the UK.

 

From the description in Kaaimans' advert : "The car is currently being UK registered with all taxes paid"

Also in this post on YouTube we can clearly see the car is at Kaaimans together with the Azzurro La Ferrari, which had the same owner in Dubai.

 

I have seen the blue La Ferrari at coffee here in Dubai, as recently as last fall.

 

The latter is very true...... so could it be that it was originally a stolen car??

I wonder why the selling dealer has completely gone quiet??

Some people have actually stated that the car is a total fake and it was never an F40.

To me this would be very hard to believe.


May the Horse be with you

 

Marcel,

I am not sure if you have watched this video?

Says the owner took it back to Ferrari for the refurb and the paint;




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...."took it back to Ferrari"??? What a joke. Ferrari would be the factory in Maranello and I can assure you they would not take a 30+ year old F40 back nor would they paint it blue.
The guy who did this video has probably no idea what he is talking about. And who is the driver ? If this repaint was done by Zanasi, this is a private company and not owned by Ferrari.
Yes, it's a free world (or at least was until recently) and anybody can say anything.

Marcel Massini

 

The guy behind "MrJWW" who has no clue is "influencer/journalist"... James Walker, he claims to write for The Sunday Times too. (!?)
Behind the wheel is allegedly the owner "Abdul", with a much changed appearance from this video in 2016.

Kaaiman seems to have chosen the same strategy as the owner of F40 80726 after its history was revealed, it just "disappeared" too.

 

The common denominator between 80726 and the blue car, ZANASI...

 

The plot thickens! (??)

Like with Akihiro Kabe's F40 70826* also had a very tragic past.

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/145561176/

Edit : 80726!

 

Aha.
Abdul Razak Mohammed Nezir Amin. In the "trade" business. See my earlier posts.
Reminds me of a now Azzurro Blue 288 GTO in that same "garage", a 288 with a rather unhappy early history (1988). I also remember well certain U.S. brokers who desperately tried to sell that 288 repeatedly asking me to "adjust" or "revise" the history of that 288 by simply eliminating parts of the early days, I refused. Those brokers in NJ and PA tried all sorts of "motivation". Their attempts were in Spring 2010. That 288 then went via CA to Australia and ended up in Dubai and is now Azzurro Blue as well.
Do I believe in coincidences?

Marcel Massini

 

You mean 80726.

Marcel Massini

 

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H172 NPR (80726) is no longer on the DVLA register.

 

i dont think the uk police are that much different than those in other countries in this respect....
when my bbi was stolen to order from my mechanic's garage in geneva in 2010, the alert went out and the thief was filmed leaving geneva into france at one of the border crossings....it was noted, and he was then filmed going through another border crossing (as you know, geneva and france have multiple crossings and it is sometimes easier to go in and out of countries rather than stay in one to get to your ultimate destination), and the police did not stop the thief....
the car was eventually recovered since the reason why it had been at the mechanics (worn out rear tires from attending the giro di sicilia and targa florio), landed the thief with a flat tire, and he could not figure out how to put on the spare, and ended up abandoning the car in a barn just across the border in france in a barn.

when the police summoned me to the station to go through the paperwork, they were very excited to tell me that this model car had not been stolen in geneva since 1978....to which i responded that this did not surprise me at all given that they stopped making it in 1984 ! then they showed me the videos mentioned above....and when i asked them why they did not stop the thief the first time, and even more damning, why they did not stop him the second time through!?.....the first policeman answered that the douaniers had more important business to attend to....to which i asked 'what more important business did they have to attend to at that lonely crossing other than perhaps some devious swiss person trying to infiltrate the country with contraband meat or butter?'....which they did not like at all....and then the second policeman confessed that they had not stopped the car because the driver was black and the swiss police had recently gotten into a lot of trouble stopping an african diplomat in a ferrari in town, believing it to be stolen....

but, never mind, i got my car back and then had an unpleasant 4 months arguing with insurance companies for the repair of some slight damage sustained in this escapade - but thats another story for another time.

 

Mr JWW is an extremely credible human. You will never hear a bad word about James and he is very well respected.

The other Chap I cannot comment on aside from the fact that he used to be very public however he has recently disappeared from social media.


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Perhaps Marcel should contact Zanasi??


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thats not a bad idea.
i will repeat that the recent story about the tr stored at zanasi and come out the other side a complete wreck, has left me with a very poor opinion of that shop.
perhaps unwarranted, however, if you look at pics of that car, and the complete lack of explanation as to how it got that way, i smell a rat.

 

For what?
I don't get it.

Marcel Massini

 

What has this photo to do with 90969 and/or the blue F40 in the UK?
I assume the photo does not show 90969 which supposedly is in AUS.

Marcel Massini

 

To ask them if they have any records of numbers and markings.

Given they they refurbished the vehicle and painted the car.

They will probably know more about the serial number that is a reproduction too as they most likely had it installed.




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I’m not following why it’s Marcel’s responsibility to communicate with Zanasi. In addition, if they’re the ones who “refurbished” the car they’re also the ones likely to have altered the car intentionally to deceive so I wouldn’t put any faith whatsoever in anything they tell MM or anyone else for that matter.

 

Perhaps you are in the market for the ultimate Ferrari personalization experience - you choose your favourite model and write your own serial number for it.

 

80726 was mentioned in the last page or so as a similar car with a fatal back story, as you know when that fact emerged (with your period pics) the car was pulled from the auction back in late 2017 and appeared to also vanish. Eurospares were linked to the car at the time on here. The photo posted was taken in early 2018 by a google camera car so more than likely the same F40, given it also has plexi windows.