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Plane / car crash in Florida

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  1. TheMayor

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    Horrifying....

     
  2. Bob Parks

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    Too bad. Same old thing. " Nose down, straight ahead when the noise up front stops on take off." Hard to do but it works. I have witnessed three of these and they are always bad.
     
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    The boy who was in the car has since passed away.....
     
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    Scary.
     
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    The link says the plane hit the airport fence, after careening off the car. So somehow they were pointed back at the airport. Hopefully there were witnesses to shed some light on what actually happened and the flight path.
     
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    I looked a the location on Google Maps, and the aircraft was clearly inbound. If it had just taken off, I suspect engine trouble and an attempt to return to the airport.
     
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    Stretching the glide? Still not a good thing to try.
     
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    At the point where the plane crashed, it was still not aligned with the runway, so I suspect it was banking as it came down.
     
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    Really heavy sink rate when she impacted. Scary video.
     
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    High sink rate and right wing stalled, no lift from anything , bad situation.
     
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    It was drilled into my head that if the motor quits on takeoff dont try go back to the airport. And if the motor quits in flight dont land or roads or beach, dont make your problem someone elses.

    We practiced it a lot, instructor throttled back at random moments. Also learned spin recovery.

    I dont know how they got there, but looks like the end result of a stalled plane trying to revover at low altitude.
     
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    No forward airspeed results in lots of downward airspeed. Not optimal.
     
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    Anyone know how many minutes or seconds the engine quit before the crash? Any ATC recordings?
     
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    There is an infamous quote: "eyewitnesses to aviation accidents are almost always wrong." This has been discussed at length since the quote was made (in the early 1960s) but I have heard an air crash investigator much more recently say something similar. Something along the lines of the biggest hinderance to an investigation being an eye-witness.

    If you are referring to the last image from that report then that is just horrifyingly unlucky.
     
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    lol, As I was writing that I knew someone would say this. There is still much info that could be deduced. The investigators will collect all available data and come to their conclusions.
     
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