400i Heater Valve and engine mount

Dear Gentlemen,

does anyone know in which other vehicles the heater valve and the engine mount from the 400i were also installed ?

Best regards

Zdenek

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Lamborghinis use that mount

 

Is it not possibly synonymous of a Fiat or something like that. I would like to buy these, but find the price as Ferrari spare part very expensive. I was hoping someone would recognize these components from another car and I could then purchase them from another parts supplier.

 

Most Fiats have 4 cylinder engines, I don't think the mount would be strong enough for a V12.

 

Heater valve is also a Opel part with part nr.1820106. Used on Kadett B, Manta A, Opel GT

 

Those mounts are generic and can be found in a GOOD hardware store or maybe McMaster-Carr.
Ken

 

Good day,

You would need to check the diameter, height, and thread diameter and pitch, but Cicognani has a mount very similar for 60 Euro

http://www.cicognaniguarnizioni.it/Ferrari-163/365-gt4-2-2--400-gt-400i-163-l32/supporti-differenziale-_cad._-16332410_7259

As for the heater valve... I thought I saw these on 308's and Boxers?... but I could be wrong

Cheers,

Sam

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The valve is indeed expensive, but the mounts are approx 100GBP each which is is not horrendous for a vintage car.

 

I did some additional checking and the Motor Mount looks to be the same as used on the Daytona as well. Eurospares lists the mount to be 106 mm in diameter. Interestingly, Cicognani has the Daytona mount for 60 Euro:

http://www.cicognaniguarnizioni.it/Ferrari-163/365-gtb4-daytona-163-l20/supporti-cambio-e-motore-_cad._-16320410_6885

Cheers,

Sam

 

$67

https://www.altopelhilfe.de/product_info.php?language=de&info=p4861_heizungsventil.html

 

The valve is the same but you need to alter / transfer the riveted nut and pinch bolt to the new valve. Not a 3min job.

 

My bad, I did not see this was for a motor mount. Ken

 

Hello,

thank you very very much for your help.

Best regards

Zdenek

 

Depends on how handy you are but should be doable. The Fiat X1/9 with AC heater valve is from what I can see equal and should fit without any mods. Hard to find though.

https://www.midwest-bayless.com/p-9547-4351765-oe-heater-valve-ac-fiat-bertone-x19-all-oe-nos.aspx

 

MYE TAKK ARVID

 

Just adding some info here for future reference.

400 engine mounts are 106mm. The diff mounts are 86mm. An email to Cicognani has confirmed they only sell the 86mm mounts. This is a shame as €60 is substantially cheaper than the £100-115 that Superformance, Maranello, etc charge.

Does anyone have any thoughts on what difference 20mm would make if you did use the smaller ones as engine mounts?

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I wouldn't...

The oil hose that comes from the oil filter and feeds the engine is really close to the chassis, additional slope could end up as a major oil failure. See Ak Jim photo, you can even see that the hose has been rubbing against the chassis :


On my car I have replaced this fitting by the one from the oil cooler (with a sharp bent), this implied to revert the oil cooler and use longer hoses. This sharp bent fitting does clear the hose away from the chassis, but that's still a very tight fit (0.5cm). I would not take a chance in a less beefy engine mount.

 

Good to know. Thanks for the info

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Not sure what you mean. To my eyes they look exactly alike.

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Thanks @Arvid , these are indeed an exact match to my own 400i valve.

I have to say however that on the 365 the valve is different and bolted on the engine block (not on the firewall like on my 400i). I did not check on others cars, but there must have been some variations. Maybe also that some mechanics did replace/relocate the original valve as the access is quite troublesome.

For the record, that's how it is mounted on my own car:

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Gotta love Ferrari! Remove the engine to change a heater valve.

 

It's in a thight spot for sure and I will have to change mine this season.

They are originally Ranco valves - Ranco H28-104 is the number stamped on them. Isn't Ranco an American brand ? They are probably used on American built cars but which ?

 

Not an expert on all American cars but all of the ones I’m familiar with don’t regulate the heat by controlling water flow but instead mix cold air with the heated air from the heater core. They are usually called blend doors because they look like a door and blend unheated air with heated air.

 

Thanks,I didn't know that. I thought maybe GM or GMC had same part since Opel was under the GM umbrella.

 

All the factory ones I've seen have a pinch bolt in a threaded bung that the cable goes through. You can't connect the stock cable to that lever with a pin hole in the end