I have been back and forth antsy lately about mine. Just spent the last three days driving it and remembering how awesome it is. But I've been new car itchy the past few months, partly out of boredom, partly out of a desire for a luxury car or SUV. Wife says just sell the Alfa rather than let it sit - since getting the F12 7 mos ago I've put 8k miles on the F12 compared to less than 3k on the Alfa. And ~1k of that was one weekend trip to see Darth where we tore through the mountains north of LA at crazy speeds. The problem is the Alfa is worth low 40s on trade or mid 40s for private sale, and there is NOTHING that can touch the performance and handling in that range. If I had more garage space, I probably would just keep it and add another vehicle. I dunno. My friend just got a used grey QV with CF seats and really low miles for 48k or so, and even though he has a 488, 675lt and Gallardo SL already he said it was such a deal for the performance he just wanted to have it!
Another reason I leased mine ... was afraid of the values dropping, especially if Alfa threw in the towel. Have you tried running it through Carvana? A few months ago they were offering we above local dealers on trades (for my Audi Allroad), and the Giulias they had available were going like hotcakes. I had a great experience with them.
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with the way things are going, the likelihood that you will see a sports sedan like a QV being built again are slim. I get that EV/Hybrid is the techno that will be in full force inside of 10 years, but after having driven the new Taycan, it left me cold. I had more fun in an RS6 than the P-Car. I've had my QV since 2016, and while I'm in the market for another car, I will not sell the QV. It is a keeper regardless of what Alfa does or does not do. As far as resale, well what can you say, other than time will tell if the cars value increases. the depreciation hit it took was to be expected. long haul who knows. like many here I have been fortunate to own many cars in my life and so far I've kept only 3 as they just resonate with me. My E30 M3 & E39 M5 Dinan S2 and now the Alfa QV. Miller takes good car of it so I need not worry about service.
I went to Millers too, the oters are not good news. So far keepers have been BBI, E46 M3 its a bit heavy and dull at the wheel but properly aligned and remapped its really nice and strong, the view out feels like a greenhouse comapred to moderns, plus mapped as it its 170 is an easy number., Lotus elise if you only ever had one sportscar and this was it, you would have missed nothing, to drive everything else feels like a compromise. Then theres the Gulia, like the elsie its right for purpose out the box, well exceeds expectations, its always an experience to drive, taught me to like paddles, is a modern so its also easy and comfortable, yet feels alive which makes it a class of 1 for a modern sedan. Gulia and elise pretty much cover all the bases. A Gulia witht he e46 mapped motor and a stick, that could be something. Still the Alfa box is great and the turbo power is effortless, its a modern not a throwback, but a modern thats still fun and alive, who else does that?
Quadrifoglio ownership update after a couple of months. The car is absolutely brilliant, but it's horribly flawed in some unforgivable ways. Pros Steering is the most direct, most precise I've ever experienced. The car is rock solid at high speed. It just cruises at triple digit speeds, completely unbothered. In the right gear (see cons), it's an absolute rocket ship. Astonishing acceleration in a 4 door sedan. The design will age well. I don't think Alfa can do better. This car will be a classic in the future. Cons Factory tuning of the brakes, gas pedal, transmission, and the power delivery make the car feel like a bucking bronco. It's impossible to be smooth in this thing, especially in race mode. The '17 cars are too low for street cars. I bottom out over speed bumps (even going 5mph), carbon chin spoiler brushes nearly any angle other than billiard table smooth. The factory tires (P zero Corsa system - basically racing tires) are trash on the street. Cold, they spin so easily the car can't put any power down. Hot, they stick like mad, but also wear before your eyes. (Replaced mine with Michelin PSS) Further to the tuning issues - Alfa limits the power and torque available in the first 5 gears. Its very noticeable when starting from a stop. Mash the peddle sometimes in 2nd or 3rd and nothing happens... I'm not talking turbo lag, I'm talking the car is retarding timing and actively limiting power. Gas pedal - again, why? In race mode, where there is no traction control, in the mode where the only traction control is your right foot, the electronic throttle actually gives you FULL THROTTLE at less than 50% of the throttle physically applied. There is no difference in the last 50% of the travel of the pedal. While not to the same degree, this is also the case to A, N and D programs. Factory brakes are frankly trash for a car capable of this speed. The electronic modulation seems to be totally ignorant of your foot work. While crawling slowly the brakes either grab too hard or not enough and I find myself standing on the pedal. So, am I getting rid of the car? Hell no! I've ordered EBC yellow stuff brake pads (reviews say that this fixes the lack of bite and makes the car much smoother to brake). Tires, I've already addressed. Lastly, this summer, I'm sending the cars ECUs to a specialist here in the US. They offer a tune that smooths out all the electronic gremlins identified above, permanently turn off the auto start/stop function while driving, turn off the 3 cylinder highway mode, and generally make the car better to drive from what I understand. There are hardly any changes to power and torque - the point of this tune is drivability, not cranking up boost. It costs about $800. Turn around time is a couple weeks. I can't wait. With these fixes, I'd say the car is the most perfect sports car on earth.
Oh, one other mod worth every penny - a OBDii port tool that allows you to open and close valves in the exhaust anytime you want. Best $300 I ever spent. https://imgur.com/gallery/v7wpT4o
I just bought a 2018 hard-loaded Stelvio for my daughter, red/red. 16K miles. I've got to get it to the dealer to add Apple Car Play and detail it and it should be good to go. Seems like a solid rig.
Quick anecdote: I love calling the local Alfa dealer when I get a flat and they ask me first what size tires I need, and then ask me if I want all season or summer only (I told them I needed to replace a Pilot Super Sport.)
With the recent used car insanity the value is now back up in the high 50s... dealers asking around $56-60k for ones near my color/options/mileage.
I bailer early on my Giulia lease. As many have said...great steering. The 8 speed ZF box was as good as a VW DSG. Mine was just a Lusso with the performance package. Great fun to drive. But all the technology is a recipe for disaster. One computer glitch and the entire car shuts down. Having to constantly turn off features that I have no use for, etc. And when all the electronics start to need repairs/replacement...the camera the radar the lane change sensors, etc., etc., it won't be pretty. The navigation was a pain, and obsolete before the car even got off the boat. But it was no fun looking at the tach and seeing 1500 rpm at 60 mph...it just felt all wrong. I'd rather have a 1977 Alfetta Coupe...a car that made honest noise and was great to drive. In the meantime I went back to a real car and got a 2001 911.
2021 Alfa Romeo Giulia Review | Still the driver's choice We remain emotionally drawn to the Giulia years after its debut... https://www-autoblog-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.autoblog.com/amp/2020/12/29/2021-alfa-romeo-review/?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.autoblog.com%2F2020%2F12%2F29%2F2021-alfa-romeo-review%2F
definitely still the best in class driver but no excuse they dont let you shut off computer nannies. and should have a launch control feature too. do those 2 things and i would still be driving my old one.
Quad's Race mode is full ESC off and I wish you could do Race for sharpness but keep it on, slides like crazy with all that torque.
oh i thought race still had stability on. why dont reviews ever show qf drifting? imagine it would be ultimate drift machine but on the 4 cyl forgetting about drifting, what do you do if stuck in snow and esc wont allow wheel spin to help you get out?
So I like my daughter’s stelvio so much I thought I might get my own. Do real men drive these things? 6’4 men?
Going to list my beloved '18 Quadrifoglio. Private seller, one owner, just shy of 19k miles. Factory 4yr/50k warranty another 15 mos/31k miles. PM for details - my friend is going to broker to handle calls for me. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
