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Just sold my Ferrari to buy more TSLA

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  1. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Mine is changed that being said for a track use, pleasure of driving I got 0 out of it. My FF was about the same: fast but emotion less… not sure why but those old cars with their smells, design, noise, low center of gravity are just more fun for a backroad…but for everyday? Electric…
    Now I’m a big Merc fan and d’or having been in the new s class several times and hopefully with themes EQS this will exposed further tesla interior quality which is crap for 100k


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  2. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    #1527 freshmeat, Jun 17, 2021
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    The Tesla supercharger network never shut down, unless you’re talking about electricity grids shutting down? Can’t vouch for the already poorly maintained 3rd party charging stations, even prior to the pandemic it was worse than casino odds.

    The Tesla supercharger network is so prevalent nowadays and fast that it’s actually more convenient than having your own slow charge point at home. Unlike other EVs, Tesla UX and software is intelligent enough and easily plots drivers to available charging stalls at supercharger stations…even will call out which charging stalls at the station are available/out of service, unlike 3rd party where it’s a toss up every time you go and you don’t find out which chargers are available/in service until you arrive. It is very common (>50% of the time) to arrive and have all of the chargers either taken and/or out of service at 3rd party locations and coz they’re slow, wait time can be agonizing.

     
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  3. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    #1528 freshmeat, Jun 17, 2021
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    I totally agree here that Tesla’s spartan interior and faux sustainable leather is a far cry from luxury. But what’s ****ty about the quality exactly?

    The Tesla seats don’t look like much, but I’ve driven to LA and back from the Bay Area and they are plenty comfortable, with no backaches or soreness whatsoever at the end of the trip. I’ve driven my past Merc c32, clk55 and cl600 on the same route once upon a few times, can’t say the same.

    Also, not sure if anyone else has seasonal allergies but Tesla’s 1-of-a-kind hvac system has been amazing during allergy seasons for me. It’s pretty insane how clean the air is in the cabin, night and day. Overlooked by many and hardly talked about, but in all seriousness, all the stuff that matters are definitely better than a comparable mercedes. Good luck w that clunky merc infotainment btw…it’s like deprecating your iPhone to a blackberry, that alone would drive me nuts.



     
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  4. Dom

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    I think my Tesla Model 3 Performance is fun to drive.

    I had a Ferrari 308Gt4 for 15+ years and a 997 Targa 4S for about 5 years. Had fun with all 3 cars. The Tesla is different, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t fun. Fast as hell, and handling is pretty good given its a 4 door (and if you really want, you can get aftermarket parts to improve the handling). But even stock, I would say it beats both my old GT4 and 997 on the backroads. Of course, we are talking about 2020 technology vs 1975 in the case of the GT4, so not really a fair comparison.

    People are tracking, racing, rallying their Tesla’s. Take a look around the internet, you’ll see plenty of pics/videos/descriptions. Lots of excitement around the brand, and pretty impressive results all around. I hear unplugged performance will be taking their Model S Plaid to Pikes Peak.

    Tesla doesn’t have the sound of either the Ferrari or the Porsche, but to be honest, I don’t really miss it all that much. It does make fart sounds when I press the horn, though, so there’s that. And UFO sounds when I back up.

    Interior is Spartan, and I like that. Believe it or not, reminds me a lot of my GT4. No excess stuff, just what you need to drive.

    I have solar at home, so charging costs me $0. No real maintenance to speak of, other than wear parts like tires and brakes. But even brakes will last forever, since you don’t use them much because of the regenerative breaking.

    The technology is constantly improving, and the electric cars 5 years from now will be a different beast altogether.

    I agree with the others that liking one does not preclude liking the other. My blood runs red, and I’ll always admire Ferrari.

    But, I think I am done with ICE cars, and doubt I will own another one. My Model 3P is a stop gap car for me. I waiting for the electric sports cars to come out. The new Tesla roadster sounds incredible and hopefully will come out soon. But I also am looking forward to the competitors. What will Ferrari’s electric car be like? Or Porsche - yes, they have their Taycan, but I can’t wait for them to come out with an electric successor to the 911. It’s an amazing time for electrics.

    Most people thought the GT4 was ugly, and I disagree. I also happen to like the way the Model 3 looks:

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  5. mchas

    mchas F1 Veteran
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    Most here are missing the point of this thread. He sold his Ferrari to buy Tesla STOCK, not a car, and that stock has gone up 15x. He can buy several Ferrari's and several Tesla’s and still have money leftover!
     
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  6. butcher

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    Yeah I think one guy went off topic and most everyone else was responding to that…
     
  7. ScreaminRevs

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    Because all the authoritarian governments around the world are simply legislating it that way. Where do you think the corrupt politicians are investing their money in? The same companies they're propping up.
     
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  8. Dom

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    Agree. But since some were disparaging the cars, I thought I would put my experience in. And, to keep it on topic, I did buy some TSLA when I bought my Tesla in May of 2020. I wish I had bought more.
     
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  9. Dom

    Dom F1 Veteran
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    And, to go off topic agin, I saw this article this morning. Apparently, Ford has build more of the electric Mustang Mach-e than they built ICE Mustangs:

    https://wegoelectric.net/ford-is-building-more-electric-mustang-mach-e-than-ice-mustangs/

    As much as I love my Tesla, my wife really wants a Mach-e. Problem is, they are in such demand that it is impossible to find one, or, when we do, they dealers are asking $5-10k above MSRP. I may need to buy some Ford stock too…
     
  10. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Then ur abc suspension must have been broken or your back or backside because it’s night and day in favor of the cl600.


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  11. freshmeat

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    The leather in my cl was plush but the lumbar and base support etc are what determine the outcome of the condition of the back, not suspension or how soft the leather is…

    My FF is the same way, lower back pinches when I’m in the car longer than an hour. I’m in my early 30s, workout 4-5days a week…so pretty sure my back isn’t giving out just yet.

     
  12. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    The FF is not a comfortable car.Quality is terrible given its sticker price. I had 0 emotions out of driving it, it’s gone and I won’t miss it that much.
    Im sorry will just have to disagree, im also in my 30’s and work out.
    The merc seats in my cl65 are just the best thing; heck we have a new g wagon, had a 17 s63 coupe and they were nowhere close to those.
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    Sorry but the Tesla interior is just so poor; damages so easily, cheaply made. It’s not uncomfortable but it’s just poor for luxury.

    FYI- age has nothing to do with the condition of ur back; u can herniate ur disc at 30 doing a deadlift the same way you can do it at 60


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  13. freshmeat

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    I wonder if @JERRYZ sold any...coz I haven’t sold any, actually added on this last dip and am at 2,400 shares @ $228 cost basis, was bummed I lost the 69 figure in my number of shares, but wanted to round it out so I can sell covered calls.

     
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  14. paulchua

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    Actually, I argue it's not a Ford vs. Chevy thing

    It's more like steam vs gas thing.

    I don't get mad when Jay Leno busts out his steam engine car, in fact, I LOVE steam cars.

    That doesn't mean I would make myself appear foolish defending the 'performance benefits' of steam-powered sports cars, and arguing that internal combustion engines are just a 'fad.'
     
  15. paulchua

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    Economies of scale will make the number one thing that doesn't care about global warming change.

    COST.

    Electric cars, in the long run, will eventually be cheaper to run and maintain.

    PERIOD.

    For the vast majority of folks (read: non-enthusiasts)

    That's all they need to know.

    Most folks don't care about (Engine sound, Raw Vibration, Intake Vents, Stick Shift, Smell of petrol, oil changes, etc)

    ***

    If you offer the same exact Big Mac for $1.99 vs $0.99 cents - which would people buy?

    It's as simple as that.

    P.S. Rimac just acquired Bugatti today,
     
  16. JERRYZ

    JERRYZ Formula Junior

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    I haven't sold a single share. I am awaiting Tesla's FSD to dominate the industry and their 4680 battery tech to dominate at which point every other automaker will be forced into licensing Tesla's technology to put in their own cars to stay in business. Remember how every PC used to say "Intel Inside? We aren't too far from every new car with a "Tesla Inside" badge.
     
  17. Nospinzone

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    What are the advantages of "FSD" (I don't know what that is) and "their 4680 battery tech"?
     
  18. BJK

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    FSD = Full Self-Driving - allows you to sleep while driving, after you've finished playing on your phone :p

    4680 batteries = new design giving more power and range.

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  19. Nospinzone

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    Thanks BJK, but I don't wanna sleep while I'm driving. :(
     
  20. BJK

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    well you're not supposed to sleep. Some mfg'ers have camera's pointing at you're face to check that you're not. Tesla needs to do the same.

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  21. Nospinzone

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    Yes, I know the Lexus LS600hL has that feature as standard.
     
  22. tbakowsky

    tbakowsky F1 World Champ
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    Can you buy shares in Rimac?
     
  23. JERRYZ

    JERRYZ Formula Junior

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    FSD is Full Self Driving which will take over individual ownership (except for performance drivers) and will take over rideshare as the rates for a ride will be half as much because there is no driver to pay. Tesla's FSD solution is years and years ahead of everyone else.

    4680 is an entirely new battery cell that will begin showing up in Tesla cars by years end at their Berlin and Austin factories. They are twice as good and twice as cheap as anything else out there.
     
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  24. BJK

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    wishful thinking. Musk himself recently said 12-18 months away, which in 'Elon' time could be ...... longer. ;)
    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-model-s-plaid-may-have-died-due-to-4680-cell-production-issues-162774.html

    Musk: The team is “not quite yet to the point where we think the cells are reliable enough to be shipping cars,” he summed.
    “It appears as though we’re about 12, probably not more than 18, months away from volume production of 4680,” said Musk.

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  25. freshmeat

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    #1550 freshmeat, Jun 23, 2021
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    "How soon" may be in doubt and Elon has historically been off w his timeline predictions, but everything that has been put in place today points to an undeniable eventuality and a competitive edge that no other automaker has invested and/or made an effort to vertically integrate into. Closest would probably be VW w their investment w Quantumscape solid state battery tech, which is even further out in terms of basic economic viability, let alone scaling into mass production.

    In the autonomy segment, name the closest competitor? Waymo? lmao, is that why I see a sh!et ton of "mapping" cars driving all over metropolitan cities trying to "fake" autonomy with hd maps? Man, I saw the writing on the walls for that one years ago...good for Google that they sh!et gold and can continue to hemorrhage money for lost causes like that one.

    So wishful timing sure, wishful thinking unlikely not. You only need to look to the Supercharger network...how many years on are we and the competition is still dragging its feet in one of the most important determining factors of owning an EV, smh. Once you've experienced the Tesla supercharger, going to a 3rd party is like going back to a blackberry, probably worse coz at least the blackberry was reliable and didn't fubar all the time.

     
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