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F8 If you already had a Pista - F8 or 296 and why

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Eddie v, Jun 25, 2021.

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  1. Caeruleus11

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    If the question is limited to your title, then I say its an easy answer as the F8 is just too close to Pista. But the 296 is likely a year away from first deliveries. Not sure on the price, but I doubt it will be anywhere near 400k base- probably just under 3. One idea could be get a nice F12 and see what you think. Likely at a more stable place in its depreciation curve.


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  2. Autolove

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    [emoji23] Funny AND good advice. Thanks man.


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  4. Il Co-Pilota

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    With the F8, you get a car with the same glorious engine as is in your Pista. That engine is such a masterpiece and I have a hard time believing the V6 will be as crispy and responsive.

    I would not want ghe weight of the 296. Looking at the fact that the accelleration numbers are the same as the F8 despite the power, leads me to believe that the 296 is significantly heavier.

    It will be interesting to see how much less space is in it. One of the things that makes the F8 great, is its useability and practicality. It's a sports car you can use for a trip etc.

    Seeing that Ferrari is still fighting bugs in the SF90, I would not want an early 296. So consider how long you are willing to wait.

    The F8 and Pista drives and feel completely different. They are a great pair with little overlap.

    For me this is so easy. F8 without thinking twice about it.

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  5. Natkingcolebasket69

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    296 only 40 kilos heavier than f8.
    296 is .5 faster to 120 than f8 which is significant


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  7. monkiboy48

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    Agree with previous posters, go with a 812. It's cheaper, different, and will most likely be the last of its kind. With the 296 having the same hp as the 812 comp the successor to the 812 would have to be 850hp or more which is just not feasible. Something tells me there won't be a replacement to the f8 and 812 platform...and possibly only a 296 and sf90 platform moving forward.
     
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    You didn’t like the TDF? That’s a dream car for me, absolutely love the looks of that car!
     
  9. Shadowfax

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    Neither but if I were forced to choose :- weighing up 296 against F8 clearly leaves F8 on the bottom with its only possible advantage being less electrical complexity.

    I found F8 far too lacking in emotion and and simply far too bland to drive for the type of car it is. It was also the least inspiring sounding Ferrari I've ever driven as well.

    Looks wise 296 (to me) is better/more up to date and has a more aggressive stance as a sports car - seems to not have the same SUV ride height as F8. 296 also has a more up to date interior and I expect a superior ergonomic as well.

    Frankly it wouldn't surprise me at all to find 296 is more emotional with better sorted controls than Pista, but will reserve final judgement until after I drive one.
     
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  10. vonbeeler

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    Ditto :)


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  11. Shadowfax

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    #61 Shadowfax, Jun 27, 2021
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    Not sure why the need to bring the 812 into play when it's off topic as a car and not even on the list of choices?

    So for those hard of reading the thread title is:

    "If you have a Pista and were given the choice between 296 or F8 which would you choose?" And more importantly "why"?

    PS. Outside of these two to choose would sit a range of cars to choose depending upon what one was looking for out of the car. Me personally, I would choose neither as previously stated, and only if I had a gun to my head and were physically forced into it would I pick one of them.
     
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  12. vonbeeler

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    This makes no sense.

    812 is best choice “outside of these two”
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  14. Shadowfax

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    How does it not make sense when nobody was even asking about anything else outside of the specified choice as per the thread title?

    Im sorry but anything else is off topic up until such point OP changes the thread title or asks for alternative selections. Frankly i could think of 101 other choices but as a Pista owner i gave my answer in line with the question asked.
     
  15. Thecadster

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    It’s nearly impossible for me to imagine that anyone might think either the 296, or the F8, superior to the Pista. The only way I would wish to add a car in the same genre is if it were sufficiently better, or sufficiently different. Both the 296 and the F8 are neither better, nor different. I suggested the 812 because it might actually be better, and it’s certainly different. Personally, I don’t like owning cars that overlap each other at all. That is why my personal collection is somewhat eclectic (812, Pista, 765LT, 05 Ford GT, 17 Viper ACR, STO on order). I also suggested the 812 because I have some experience owning both and can speak directly to the fact that they do scratch much different itches. So I can read directions, but I do not always do the best job following them.
     
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  16. SoCal to az

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    The more time that passes by and the more cars that are released , the more I appreciate my Pista.
     
  17. SECRET

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    Latest, I'm feeling like my perfect garage right now would be:

    Lusso for kid duty
    Taycan CT (Turbo?) for baby + family duty
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    Pista for fun (may be shifting to a Senna for track duty soon)
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  18. Shadowfax

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    I don't mind the 812 fwiw even though it does resemble a rickshaw with that overly long front and sawn off ass, but I wonder how attractive it would be if it had a v6 in it?? Probably lose all appeal i'd imagine if it didn't have that v12 in it?? I think the new special version 812 looks pretty tough and also more resolved in physicality given the imbalance of the cars physical proportions. I like it and would gladly own one of those but I doubt Id ever be offered one. These things are usually reserved for the pets.

    Re what you say on Pista - im not saying it isnt a great car and a car worthy of holding but you cant say its the better driver out of the 296 until you've actually driven a 296. And its here that leaves me wondering. Because if Ferrari is repeatedly and passionately stating the 296 is THE most emotional out of their line up then maybe it is. And if that's found the case then I'm not going to kid myself by saying the Pista is the better just because i own it. So my jury is out for now.
     
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  19. Thecadster

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    Come on Shadow. You’re a track guy, how could you possibly imagine a world where the 296 is a superior driver to the Pista? The 296 is a lard ***. That much nearly everyone agrees on. No way a car that with that much junk in the trunk is going to going to drive like it should, regardless of all the technological witchcraft Ferrari throws at it.

    And yes, I bought the 812 because of the engine.
     
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  20. Shadowfax

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    #70 Shadowfax, Jun 27, 2021
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    No i'm not saying as a track car. The Pista is Ferrari's best effort there - as being suitable for track rigors - but as good as it is, it has room for improvement. 296 is heavier than what i'd look for in a track day car, but as a fun type out of town up the mountains type car it should hold up ok even if the unknown reliability factor may leave you wondering if you are going to wind up stranded. On circuit I would foresee a costly exercise in keeping tyres and brakes up to it that is if it didn't conk out after sustained laps due to electrical gremlins surfacing once things start getting nice and hot, throwing it into limp. And re the 812 - thought you'd say that. Not taking away from it being a good car anyway as Ferrari do make a nice car there even if the body styling is a bit disproportionate..
     
  21. Mickyd329

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    I agree. I try to avoid overlap if I can too. Wanted to add another car to the garage and had a Roma spec'd out, but decided to wait just in case I fell in love with the 296 when it got revealed. I like the design, but don't love it enough to add it alongside my Pista especially if it approaches Pista pricing. Called my dealer and placed the deposit for a December production, January/February delivery.
     
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  22. monkiboy48

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    To answer the op's question, 296. The f8 is too similar to the pista (same engine). The 296 is ferraris future and will have a completely different feel to the pista due to the new v6 and hybrid powertrain. I also think the sound may be the biggest surprise as it races towards the 8500rpm redline.
     
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  23. Get the 296.

    If you have a Pista, don't go backwards with the F8.

    If you're willing to think outside of your parameters, consider either a Performante or STO.
     
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  24. MANDALAY

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    Pista specked to the way i want would be the car forever especially if price was right. Then 488 GTB what I have , then F8 and err 296 ?

    Never. Even the numbers dont roll of ones tongue. Say 296 GTB fast a few times. GTB gets dropped just the same way it is sub headed in this forum. Its the 296.
     
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  25. Natkingcolebasket69

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    More than ur McLaren ?


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