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  1. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Last year Bottas finished 2nd in the standings...it was still clearly the fastest car.

    I do agree, Red Bull beating Merc in France is a turning point in the season. I think it's because of a series of successful upgrades. IMO Merc's next real chance for a win is at Silverstone.

    I don't think Mercedes will simply roll over. They signed lewis on for a year to win this title, they won't suddenly give up (no matter what Toto said). The car will be upgraded, you can be rest assured of that.
     
  2. FordGTDriver

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    If, indeed Merc has stopped development on the car...
    If, indeed, RB is .25 faster...
    If, indeed, Hamilton is truly one of the greatest...
    Then this is a picture perfect opportunity for Sir H to finally prove his mettle

    Its time to put up or shut up
     
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  3. Bas

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    Which car is which Willy? Hint: The car that won a race only did so because of a tyre failure 2 laps from the end by his teammate.

    The Red Bull isn't the all conquering Mercedes that we've had to endure since 2014. Lets first see them getting regular double podiums before we start talking about easy wins, eh? Even then you're a ways of from constant 1-2s, but we'll cross that bridge.

    Yep...what a sad comment from Masi!
     
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  4. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    If I was Max, I would do a Vettel(2013) almost every race.

    Screw the $10k fine from Masi. I would do donuts every race I won if I knew I was going to win the season ending in a formula that was ending.
     
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  5. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Just needs to save his gearbox haha...but I agree, once he has it wrapped up, go crazy!
     
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  6. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Your logic:

    When Hamilton wins, it's the car, and anyone could win with a Mercedes.

    When Max win, it's all down to him, and nobody else could do it in a Red Bull.

    LMAO

    Unlike you, I don't berate a winner: Verstappen did a brillant job, and I appreciate that.

    Max is very consistant these days, and has the best car. I hope he wins more and takes the title.

    The combo Red Bull/Verstappen is superior to the Mercedes/Hamilton one.
     
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  7. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Learn how to read comprehensively, Willy. It's not difficult.
     
  8. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Don't worry, I can read through you alright !
     
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  9. william

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    It looks dominant this year, and that could be the start of many, who knows?

    In that case, I am wondering if all the criticism addressed to Mercedes for ruining the show will be also thrown at Red Bull.
     
  10. Giallo 550

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    That will depend on the context.
     
  11. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    My first comment right after the race finished "Boring race up front today". I ****ing opened with that o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O

    I don't really understand what your concept of dominant is? MAX is dominant in that car at this race. Perez has 2 podiums to his name in 8 races. If this car was as dominant as you say it is, he'd have 5-6 podiums at least already at this point.

    The car has not been dominant. This is the first race where Max blew away the opposition. Ever other race he's been fighting with the Mercs.

    Compare that to say 2019 start of the season, when the first ''bad'' race Mercedes had was Canada...8th race of the season and they still finished 1st and 4th!
     
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  12. WPOZZZ

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    They can't see the piece of lettuce and bread stuck in your teeth, too.
     
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  13. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Manufacturers of automobiles are the ones who drive the FIA formula in F1 currently....not an energy drink company.

    If Horner and Marko had a say in the F1 formula, they would go back to NA ICE units and do away with hybrids.
     
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  14. DGS

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    Fixed. :D
     
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  15. DGS

    DGS Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Neither is Ferrari back markers.
    Some cars are faster than others, and they gravitate to their place in line.
    Scramble the start grid, and the cars will still sort out by their relative pace.
    (Plus or minus a few driver errors or dares. ;))
     
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  16. Barrylindon

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    Hamilton is fast but have some mental breakdowns, I still remember the mistakes that costed him the 2007 season.
    Some dilettantes seasons also when he had issues with his girlfriend.

    Some people hate him because of the way he dress or his politics, I don't but he has some shortcomings, I still think he is on the very select list of F1 best drivers.

    He has a tough season ahead, let's see how he deal with it.

    I wanted the Mercedes domination to end but not by red bull, I hate that team.

    I think with Leclerc and Sainz we have drivers that can compete with max in the future if we manage to give them a winning car.
     
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  17. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    So alone, without any upgrades his will - mental strength will propel the car faster. The Sahara is actually an ocean as well.

    Its 90% car right now. LH is stuck in a car that is capable but slower. The RedBull is faster and better balanced. Its that simple.
     
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  18. Isobel

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    Points for stirring the pot ;). It’s a good conversation for 2024, God willing.

    Full confession. I fell asleep during the race and woke up with three laps to go. Must be my inner clock for yawners ;). But to address your comment - my reaction to seeing Max out front wasn’t ecstasy;), as it might have been a year ago, but more of a subdued positivity.

    The ascendency of Max as WDC is becoming somewhat the norm. We have an Alonso-Schu 2006 type battle going on for supremacy. I’ll take it ;).
     
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  19. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Im not sensing a very close battle overall. Bahrain small timing issue that put him over track limits and failed tyre is Baku. The rest show clear Max wins. France and this were very dominant type wins. He had no real issues or pressure.

    The idiocy burnout at the finish line yesterday pure proof how un-troubled Max feels. He had zero pressure. Checo is no major threat. Another win like that in Spielberg this weekend and more of us will be snoozing with you lol :)
     
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  20. ktu

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    I never seen a driver who didn't face mental pressure or didn't made mistakes.
     
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  21. bobzdar

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    Carlos and Charles discussing the race:

     
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  22. Isobel

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    I’m not counting Merc out. Development work during the year is something they ‘seem’ to have covered fairly well in the past. And I doubt they’d want to stop their man from gaining an eighth at all costs.
    We shall see. ;).
     
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  23. furoni

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    Is it you Clark Kent?
     
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  24. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Izzy, your a genious, your avatar is just magic, lololololo
     
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  25. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    I share the feeling, in fcat i didn't even saw the race, was eating at the time and watching the lap chart from my mobile, just happy with Charles progress because after lap one and charles in the pits race was over for me...fortunately he's the kind of racer Ferrari needs, not like that whining crap driving taxis that arrive in second and are given first places...
     
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