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  1. Beau365

    Beau365 Formula 3

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    Anthony Hamilton was Glock's manager.
    I agree it must be pure conicidence with zero vested interest.
     
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  2. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    ? Ferrari won the constructors championship from 1999-04
     
  3. Beau365

    Beau365 Formula 3

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    I'm talking WDC

    Yes as you illustrate Irvine also did a great job in '99 ;)
     
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  4. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    But you were referring to car advantage, i was pionting out Ferrari was the best team. Yes Ferrari was good in 99 as well, Irvine was able to battle for championship.
     
  5. 635CSI

    635CSI F1 Rookie

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    Its about winning not PR !
    That said, those two young men are very good at PR.
     
  6. 635CSI

    635CSI F1 Rookie

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    Always interesting to hear the view from under the bridge ;)
     
  7. Alexweav79

    Alexweav79 Formula Junior

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    Stop with the premise that MS was "spanked" by alonso. He was not. The FIA did everything they could to stop ferrari and finally used the tires in '05, what? a couple months before the season started and blindsided everyone with the no tire changes BS rule. The FIA tried to stop ferrari, unlike today where they help Mercedes. Just stop spewing nonsense. '06 MS would have won the championship if his engine had not blown in Japan, hardly a "spanking" so just stop.
     
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  8. ktu

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    Every team had to play by the same rules, yes Alonso spanked him 05, Schumacher didn't win 1 legit race. Alonso beat him again in 06. Alonso also had mechanical Dnfs, this is why we don't nit pick every incident in a season. At season end, he got beat, Alonso made him retire. Its ok. No champion can win every year. I could say the same that the FIA is trying to slow down Hamilton this year, but i don't make excuses as some do. If Max wins the championship this year, no one will make an excuse for Hamilton, as it should be. So don't make an excuse for Schumacher.
     
  9. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Reading comprehension not your strong point either, eh? Look back to when those rules where announced for 05. Look at how it benefited 1 tyre company enormously. Hell you don't need to look it up. Alex told you!
     
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  10. ktu

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    So you jumping on the excuse bandwagon as well. Sounds like you agree that Schumacher was no longer able to win once the advantage was taken away, despite the fact Alonso's team mate on the other tires finished 5th. Why was'nt Schumacher able to develop the car around it? Why did he under perform when he can "win in an inferior car"? Its said that he is miles above any driver, why didn't he win?
     
  11. ricksb

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    Hamilton losing to Max would not be a stain on his record, especially if Max goes on to become the champion many expect him to be. It will simply be seen as a changing of the guard. Father Time is undefeated.
     
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  12. Alexweav79

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    I'm not making an excuse for schumacher, he got beat in '06 fairly, but maybe as others have said your reading comprehension needs some work. Alonso in no way "spanked" MSC. That point of view is delusional. You missed my point about Japan. My point of mentioning the DNF in japan was when the championship lead changes hand with 2 races to go, no one got "spanked". 2005 would be your better argument but that tire rule change was a farce. Also, alonso did not make MSC retire, montezumolo did and you know that. Don't be ignorant. Geeze. Get your head out of Hamboner's ass and think with some reason.
     
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  13. ktu

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    Alonso did SPANK Schumi in 05 and made him retire too! Lol Did that word hurt your feelings? Lol! I'm still a Schumi fan but he couldn't win 1 legit race in 05, despite being with a top team. Can you comprehend that? Lol
     
  14. william

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    So, you suspect that Anthony Hamilton instructed Glock to let his son overtake him to win the WDC?

    That look too far-fetched to me to be seriously considered. Like I said, a conspiracy theory.
     
  15. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I actually think that Verstappen will win the title this year.

    I would welcome that. I can't say Max and RB are my favourites, but they would deserve it.

    For a start, that should put the Hamilton haters out of their misery.
     
  16. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    +1 natural cycle. Need not explained further lol.
     
  17. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Schumacher doesn't design the entire tyre. That's bridgestone. The entire construction for the tyre was vastly different and you don't simply turn this around. Michelin had a distinct advantage on the harder tyre life and performance and had been working on this for quite some time. The tyre rule change was announced at the end of october 2004, giving bridgestone and Ferrari very little time to react. Furthermore changes to the diffuser and wings also impacted Ferrari significantly.

    I don't quite understand what you mean with ''once Schumachers advantage was taken away''. What are you implying here? That Lewis' current disadvantage is the same as Schumacher in 2005? As it sure reads like that. It would be the equivalent of Hamilton taken from his Mercedes to Todays Aston Martin. Lewis, Max, Leclerc, no one, is going to make a serious threat on a podium with that, let alone a championship.

    This wasn't a michael or Ferrari issue. It was a Bridgestone issue, and really with the time period they had, they couldn't do all that much.

    You're making yourself look terribly uninformed. If you haven't a clue what you're talking about...perhaps zip it.
     
  18. ktu

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    YOU say Schumacher develop cars into winners. YOU say Schumacher can drive around any issue and doesn't need the best car. YOU say Schumacher was miles above the other drivers. So why couldn't he win 1 legit race in 05? and the championship in 06? Not winning 1 legit race an entire season despite being with a top team does not match your claims about Schumacher. So how did Alonso's team mate finish 5th if his tire was so significant? You also blame the changes to diffuser and wing and that hurt Schumacher. Sounds like you are suddenly stepping back on your strong claims about Schumacher's ability. Hamilton managed to win races with the 09 car. When are you gonna blame Schumacher? Fact is his advantage was taken away so he was no longer able to win. Stand by your claims if you are a Schumi fan, don't use an excuse. You're making yourself look weak as a Schumi fan with the blame game. Keep in mind i think Schumi was great, doesn't mean i will make excuses for him. Max might beat Lewis this year, but I won't pull out every excuse available like you are because I'm a real fan.
     
  19. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    I give up. You are beyond delusional.
     
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  20. sammysaber

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    Sounds like someone is butthurt that Max is constantly pissing all over Hamilton and bringing Schumacher into every post just to troll.

    Oh, and we really care that you are a Schumacher fan or not - it's really important to us.

    Best,
    Sammy
     
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  21. ktu

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    Yeah I advise you to give up as well. The simple translation I got from reading your post was: Schumacher was unable to win as the regulation change took away the car advantage.
     
  22. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    Lol nice try, Verstappen 0 championships Hamilton 7. Yeah I'm crying as I type this lol. To be honest, I may be butt hurt if Max beat Lewis records, check back with me then ;)
     
  23. sammysaber

    sammysaber Formula Junior

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    You might as well be crying given your posts. you're not worth getting back to - your thoughts are really not that important to get back to mate - just keep sprouting your usual inflammatory crap :)

    Best,
    Sammy
     
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  24. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    Likewise
     
  25. pilotoCS

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    I think Alonso's dominance had more to do with the Michelin tires that finally came around that year (2005) only to be monumentally embarrassed at Indianapolis.
     

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