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F8 If you already had a Pista - F8 or 296 and why

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Eddie v, Jun 25, 2021.

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  1. ScrappyB

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    What’s not happening?
     
  2. ScrappyB

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    I’d widen the net a little to include a 675LT as an option. It seems 765’s are currently trading at a hefty premium while the 675’s, at least in North America are a bargain. It delivers a similarly exciting driving experience at half the price. I’m highly confident that someone buying a clean and nicely spec’d 675 right now could enjoy it depreciation-free.
     
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    Benchmarks are reference points that are used to compare performance against the performance of others. Super car afficionados make comparisons between many exotic brands, not only to Ferrari. It is common to compare the Performante to the 720S, for example, or the Porsche Gt2RS to the 765. Lately, the comparison between the Pista and the 765 has cropped up, not because the Pista is the acknowledged benchmark in this category, but rather because this being a Ferrari forum, members have initiated the conversation since it is of interest to them. The 765 and the Pista are very divergent cars that share little in common in terms of appearance and driving dynamics. Classifying this comparison is an example of using the Pista as a benchmark in which to compare the 765 would therefore not be applicable.
     
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    Shadow persuading Lukey to purchase a 765. Not going to happen.
     
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    No question the 675 is a bargain at these prices. If the 765 didn't exist, the value of the 675 would have elevated. Doubtful it will appreciate much, or at all, in the future, but conversely, should pretty well hold its curent value or close to it.
     
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    A good start to a hybrid berlinetta model... everything you need to know before you actually drive it. So geeky. and yes... benchmark in this segment for now at least.

    https://www.ferrari.com/en-US/auto/296-gtb
     
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    Couldn't agree more. I have tremendous respect for Mclaren and especially, the 765 for the performance and experience it delivers. I just never warmed up to their designs. Maybe someday I will, but for now it's just not on my radar to purchase. Like Lukey, Ferrari and Porsche is where my emotions get perked. For now at least. lol. cheers!
     
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    Right up to the point where Doug and the thugs load it on the flatbed for an extended holiday. All at someplace where you will have zero control over how your 'ride' is stored.:eek:
     
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    I suppose what I mean is that it’s the type of car that I use and love, from a brand with a great story and great engineering. I theoretically could buy the 765 and would be a target customer I guess. But I don’t have any desire for one, despite its obviously brilliant performance and feel. I think it has to do with a mixture of disliking the looks (765 much better than 720 but still a bit of a challenge for me), lots of other cars in the garage still to get to grips with and others coming, for example 812 Comp. To get the cars I want from Ferrari and Porsche, focusing our spending makes that easier too.
     
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    The 675 drives great. I drove a friend’s back to back with our 488 when we had it. Mountain hairpins need a lower gear than the 488 which picks up from much lower revs than the 675. The 488’s engine and power delivery I felt was better. The 675 has a much sharper front end, plenty of pace and looks good. It’s definitely the best McLaren up to 765 which I haven’t yet driven. It’s nicely focused and I understand why some McLaren fans say it’s their favourite.
     
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    You have an 812 Comp inbound? I'd love to own one of those! What did you have to buy to get it?
     
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    Not sure I’m getting it.

    I’ve been on many, many of the most challenging mountain roads in all conditions and found even the 458 is plenty of car for these roads. The gearing, Imo, is just about perfect.... 2-3-4 is about all I get in hard driving. Ratios are tight and feel just right. Are you saying the 488 (which I assume is geared the same) needs lower gears?

    I could agree about the steering. There is a bit of understeer going on which becomes more noticeable as the car is pressed.
     
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    You should really try and get some seat time in the 765LT. Upon doing so, you would likely have a different impression of its looks. It’s really that phenomenal.
     
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    Purchasing a super car is based upon emotion and justified by logic.
     
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    I don't think it's that simple. My friend has the 812 comp A coming and it wasn't a matter of buying something now to get an allocation. I guess Ferrari themselves makes the call based on your overall history with them. Otherwise, I'd buy anything they want me to buy right now if they promise me an allocation. LOL. I would love to own one too.
     
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    It shouldn't be that complicated either. My main interest is I like the idea of a v12 Ferrari and this is the only one I've seen Ferrari make recently with a 12 in it that has a satisfactory look. But i'm certainly not going to jump through hoops for one, or start brown nosing Ferrari by buying some unresolved looking hybrid that will never be reliable that's 100% for dead set certain.
     
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    Agree about the appearance of the 812 Comp. Cannot find love in the 812 aesthetic.
    A super car must look like one. It must have an aesthetic that is uniquely exciting and special. It should be visually awe inspiring. Porsches and 812 do not conform to my personal expectations of the design requirements to satisfy my visual lusts.
     
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    Sub 2 sec 0-60, 9 sec 1/4 mile times. should do it. Maybe will consider non plug in hybrid if pure EV range does not improve. Pure electric supercars = exciting times. Something different for me at least. EV for daily driver/appliance is tricky for the moment due to charging station issues. 20 % of EV owners gave up their EV in Cali I read.

    https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/electric/fastest-electric-cars/
     
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    Pure electric is boring, I had a Taycan Turbo S - kept it for 3 weeks then traded on manual gt3 which is much slower but way more fun.
     
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    My LT already does a 9 second quarter mile. And with drama.

    As for 0-60, the 992 TTS currently rips my face off in first gear.

    I don’t need anything faster, and this time I mean it.
     
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    I feel the same way. How many miles are on your TTS now? I only have 300 miles but feel it needs to open up a little bit. Not quite as quick so far as I’d have expected looking at my data but I haven’t had too many chances to wring it out.
     
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    About 1,400 kms. I feel it did open up a bit but it certainly doesn’t feel that quick once you’ve become acclimatized to the LT. Launch from a standstill is pretty sick though.
     
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    Maybe that’s my problem. The LT has ruined me for speed. So far my best 1/4 in the TTS is 10.3 and 0-200 kmh is 8.5 seconds. Best 0-200 kmh in the 765 is 6.7 seconds. Its just so quick.
     
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