F8 What tires came on your new F8?

Pirelli’s are the standard tire, if you specify Michelin tires you get MPSS. The High performance tire option is the Sport Cup 2s

 

The 5k option is indeed the regular cup 2. Ferrari is properly giving people that order those a shafting.

Not only is it way above price, they don't deduct the Pirellis you get for free. So in reality you give up the 1700 usd Pirellis, and then pay 5 grand for the SPC2. If you buy them yourself, you get the Pirellis as standard and then pay about 1900 usd for the Cuo2 set. Incredible that anyone pick that insane option - especially considering the fact that very few track and would get better performance from regular MPS4S or PZ4's.

Just, don't...

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I’ll pick the Michelin MP4SP for the incoming spider over the Pirellis.

I don’t get much more than a year or so of use on tires anyway as the rubber begin to harden and road noise increases. This happens whether the car is driven or not.

I have about 9 months and 7,000 miles these 458’s MP4SPs and notice an increase in road noise. The wear pattern is completely even on all four.

So, might as well drive your cars.

 

Pirellis

 

I do not think you can get Michelin MPS4S from the Ferrari factory since they do not exist in the correct sizes with the K (Ferrari) marking; if you get Michelin from the factory they will be of the older PSS generation (with K marking).
You can get the MPS4S in correct dimensions (with no K-marking) aftermarket, they are actually better than the K-marked PSS and not having K-marking is not a big deal.

 

Hmmmm, I know when I spec’d out the car, the tire question came up and I requested Michelin. Was told no problem, however it was my assumption (perhaps wrongly) that they’d be the 4SPS. Oh well, not a dealbreaker.

What I did learn on the 458 when ordering new tires through Tire Rack is that there is are two versions of the Michelin MPS4S.

One is for the Tesla and comes with an additional inner liner for a quieter ride. Speed ratings, sidewall size, width, etc. - everything else is the same.

Since they were out of the standard tires, I ended up putting them on. No noticeable difference in performance, and they’ve held up great.

 

What I've been told by Michelin people is that Porsche specs are very specific (above all for their GT cars), whereas Ferrari specs are not that special - so that running non Porsche specs on a GT3 could be detrimental but running non Ferrari specs on a Ferrari is typically not an issue.

 

That's not correct. Yes there are some versions with acoustic treatment, which is found in some variants for Tesla, BMW, Volvo and several other brands.

But as a whole, there are many variants. There is of course the general purpose version i.e the non-OEM version. But then there are all the OEM versions which can vary greatly. Different treads, different sizes, different compounds, different sidewall stiffness. Some with built in camber, some with shaved treads. Even within the same OEM and size they can vary greatly. K rating means more that Ferrari specific. They are model specific. The MPS4S K1 front for the Lusso is very different from the MPS4S K2 front for the Czli T/Porto/Roma.

Just keep that in mind when mixing and matching tyres.

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With so many variants, I hope I don’t end up with the “delta variant”, lol……

 

You don't have to be that afraid of trying new things. You just have to think about what you want. But some tyres are developed for cars that share some attributes, and thus you can get a setup that might suit your driving style better. And sometimes o e set just turns out to be better than the OE set. If you get the chance, try the MPSC2 N1 981 GT4 spec on a Pista. That works so well that I'm just wondering what Ferrari was doing when developing tyres for the Pista. Predictable, progressive and comfortable, but with a lot of the understeer and dartyness gone.

There is more to choosing than looking at the layout. How the factory sets up the chassis and how the weight is distributed matters the most. And it's been quite a while since a 911 was,an RR car. A Pista is actually more rear weight biased than a GT3RS for example.

Experimenting with tyres can be just as important and fun as experimenting with suspension setup

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I'm not a huge Pirelli fan, so I won't be sad when I have to change those out on a F8 Spider. What is the best MPS4S for that car?

 

There is no K2 for the rears though.

 

those are Cup 2's. I was thinking about MPS4S.

 

The MPS4S N0 spec for the GT4 works really well on 488's, Pistas and F8's.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+4S&frontTire=435YR0PS4SXLN0&rearTire=03YR0PS4SXLN0

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The Cup 2 tyres only gives you an advantage if you get them hot. In a lot of situations, the MPS4S offers superior performance and grip on the road. If you can't keep the Cup 2 above 50 c then the MPS4S is a better choice. On an F8, Cup 2 tyres only really make sense if you track on occassion.

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My car came on Michelin PSS, just by luck.

I believe you can force the choice with option code 'MICHELIN'.

 

Just got my car yesterday and it came with Michelin PSS. Changing to Cup 2's today. I also track my cars. Otherwise I would run the 4's on the street. They are really great tires.

 

I requested Michelin (PSS or 4S) but I got the Pirelli’s. They’ve been fine for the street so far. I’ve always run R-comps (usually Michelin Cups) on my GT3’s as well but I find it’s tough to get them up to proper temps on the street. A regular SS/4S will get “decent” grip faster, just will never reach the grip levels of an R-Compound tire once you are really pushing. And yeah, they suck in the rain/cold.