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The C8 Z06 Corvette sounds more Ferrari than Ferrari

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Ngcanada, May 7, 2021.

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  1. Gh21631

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    The same Americans who account for the largest market for Ferrari, Lambo and McLaren. Such an asinine comment.
     
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  2. Il Co-Pilota

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    Yes because the F8 is a clattering shed lol.

    Aren't you the guy who said this forum is ****ing garbage?

    Here's a suggestion. Why don't you leave, seeing that the forum is crap and Chebby will build you a much better car? Perhaps if you some day get to sit in a Ferrari or perhaps drive one, you might know a bit more. Until then, feel free to leave the nonsense at the entrance.



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  3. Il Co-Pilota

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    "Hey, wanna see something reeeeeally scary?" :D

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  4. Killavata

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    I was talking about the technical side of this forum. Anyway, why are u mad? U mad because Corvette will be a better car than the fugly 488/f8/gtb with the same interior almost 10 years or smth? And not natural synthetic turbo sound?
    Well deal with it. Gm has owned ferrari.
     
  5. Gh21631

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    So far from reality especially with the C8 which is a mess to look at. It really is a piss poor design - a mish mash of other cars scrambled together. I'd take a C7 ZR1 over a C8 any day. There's a reason why the C7 Z06 or ZR1 brings more money today.
     
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  6. Il Co-Pilota

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    Yep you got it all figured out, haven't you? Owned Ferrari? The only Ferrari GM owns is the 458 they purchased to copy.

    No I'm not mad, are you? Please feel free to use all the letters in the big words.

    Make a better car? So are you saying Randy Pobst is a bad driver? He must be, since the C8 Z51 is a full 6 seconds slower around Laguna Seca than the 488 GTB.

    Haha, no I'm not mad, I'm baffled. Your level of ignorance is fascinating. You wouldn't happen to know a guy named noone1?

    Or maybe you're just upset because you don't own a Ferrari and others do?

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  7. Il Co-Pilota

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    Indeed. Personally I'd rather have a C6 Z06 with all the right mods.

    So far the C8 has been one of the poorest selling Corvettes for its launch year. Only about 20000 sold vs. 34000 for the C7 and over 40000 for the C6. If the C8 does not crack the 150k of sold units by the end of its life cycle, it has been a total failure. Sales have to pick up for this not to be the case.

    As cool as it is as a mid engined sportscar, I think it was a mistake. Maybe in the future people will warm to it and it will re-establish itself, but right now it is not doing as well as its predecessors.

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    #183 Killavata, Aug 22, 2021
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    I don't own a Ferrari because I don't like current Ferrari models. I own the 992S. My mind is not poor to buy cars just because of the brand names. Lol
    I don't care about the brands. I just like cars. This z06 will be one of the best everyday supercars. Epic sound, fast, really nice interior(not the bs from the current Ferraris).
    U probably wearing Rolex? Lol

    Lol why do u compare the base c8 to the 488? Wait for the z06, zr1, e-ray and we will see.

    Who is Noone?
     
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  9. Edward 96GTS

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    keep in mind that ferrari are using corvette suspension systems. gm licensed the magna ride technology to ferrari so these cars are distant cousins:D
    no need to have intrafamily fighting:p
     
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    GM is a corporate pig who every few decades needs a gov't handout to get by. Big whoop. Even Ford had to out spend Enzo by a factor of 10x to beat him at LeMans. Don't confuse GMs "provenance" with Ferrari's, who arguably has the best and most valuable brand on earth. And those who own its cars own them for that provenance (and many reasons) other than red light racing. Sure Corvette does well when it goes racing. No denying that. But modern corvettes lack soul and passion, lack a sense of exceptionalism, and thats because they are built so anyone can buy one. Ferrari's have always been a "reach" for most people because of their provenance and scarcity; and, thus the price. That uniqueness of the experience sets the two apart. If you are merely talking performance, for the last 75 years there have been cars that would "beat" a Ferrari. It's much more than that.
     
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    ^ and ferrari has always been associated with the rich and famous. ferrari is automotive royalty
     
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  12. Il Co-Pilota

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    #187 Il Co-Pilota, Aug 22, 2021
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    What does whether or not I wear a Rolex have to do with anything?
    I won't answer this as it's besides the point.

    Here's the deal. I compared it to the 488 because you mentioned it. So far you have zero knowledge about what the Z06 will do compared to the 488. You were the one who said that the C8 had owned the 488 and F8. So far the only C8 on the road is the Stingray with Z51 pack, and that is not even remotely close, and that is the only basis you have as a comparison, so how can you possibly mean anything else?!

    Now let's take a moment to think about this Z06 business. Whet do we know? We know horsepower will be in the region of 615-620 hp and torque probably in the 450 lbs. As it stands now, the C8 is heavier than the F8 and 488. Will the Z06 be lighter than the Z51? A bit most likely, but it will more than likely not be lighter than the F8, and perhaps not even lighter than the 488. So here we are. Unless you can change the laws of physics, it will take nothing short of a miracle to reel in those 6 seconds with those alterations.

    Let's talk interior comfort and quality. Let's start with your 992. That has a much higher quality interior than the C8. Yes they may revise it a bit, but it will stay predominantly the same. This means fake leather, plastic, cheap fabrics etc. Now as nice as you may think your 992 interior is, even if you have the club leather, it is stll nowhere near as nice as the standard interior in a 488 or F8. So to say that the C8 Z06 will be better is just so asinine and stupid it beggars belief. That's even taking the Mickey on your own car, so well done there for turning the insult on yourself. That's really funny actually:D

    Let's talk ride comfort. Now I have experience with both the C8 and the 992, and I will say this. GM is better at setting up a comfy suspension than Porsche is. They are also better at doing proper sound insulation. In this area they have done very well indeed. Not sure how Porsche always manage to make the 911 somewhat harsh and noisy. Now I'm not against Porsche, I have a Touring on the way. But I know what the strong sides and weaknesses are, pure and simple.

    The comfort level of both the 488 and F8 would probably shock you. They both ride better and are less noisy than the C8. Now by noise I'm not just talking engine note, I'm talking wind, tyres, mechanicals etc. And this is where your lack of experience become a real issue. Had you lived with either the 488 or F8, you'd know, but it is so obvious that you don't. If you did, you wouldn't say the silly things you say.

    Now at this stage you probably think I'm a stereotypical condesending Ferrari owner, but truth is that I'm not. But I am a proper gearhead who likes all kinds of cars. What I'm doing is just taking it to your level and mirroring exactly what it is you are trying to do. If there's one thing I find more tiresome than snobbish exotic car owners, it is philistines who are snobbing down, deliberately trying to devaluate something either out of jealousy or spite. You are talking trash, and yet you don't know a damn thing. Your only purpose was to see if you could make others feel less happy about their car. But I got good news for you, because you failed. Now I will refrain from tearing more into your 992 purchase. This would not serve to help anything, and I'm sure you are happy with your car.

    If what your profile say is true and you are indeed a 34 year old adult, you should seriously consider acting your age, rather than a bratty 14 year old. Just pathetic.

    Enjoy your 992.

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    Well Zeus, you’ve really outdone yourself with this one. My mom always told me if I can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all. As such, this post has reached its conclusion...
     
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    The C8 is a great value because of its relative low price in the States. Out side of U.S., it's another story. In Europe, for example, the C8 cost twice as much as Supra and is more expensive than the 911 S.
     
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    I don't know why we have so much emotion in this thread ... Corvette will never be Ferrari but I'm very happy that someone bring back this amazing engine :D
     
  18. Il Co-Pilota

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    To many of us, this a passion and a life, not just a hobby.

    The argument between Ferrari and Corvette enthusiasts goes as far as 1954. Aside from that, it gets emotional when someone deliberately tries to stir the pot and create bad vibes.

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  19. Gh21631

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    There is a place for Corvette but not in place of Ferrari. Some try to convince themselves otherwise but it is far from reality.
     
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    To me, there is no comparison. Obviously a Ferrari is superior in every single way but that doesn’t diminish the joy of the C8 and the Z06 will unequivocally be great. Personal feelings towards aesthetics aside.
     
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    And you know how critical I am of Ferrari.
     
  22. Jo Sta7

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    Oh yes. Feeling is mutual on that one. I’ve always appreciated not giving the same slack to Ferrari that many others here do.
     
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    I’ve driven a friend’s C8 Z51 and it was superb. Interior is beautifully done and quality materials (people who say the interior is garbage have probably never sat in one), engine sound was great, performance was impressive. I was very very impressed.
    Another friend has a gorgeous Red Mist C8 Z51, as well as a Bianco Italia 458 Spider. He is a true tifosi, but if you ask him which he prefers to drive—it’s the C8.
    I have zero doubt that the Z06 will turn all of that up to “11.”
    Screaming flat-plane engine with performance to shame most, not all—but most, supercars coupled with state-of-the-art electronics and beautiful interior, reasonable warranty and service costs will all make that car an unbeatable joyful bargain.
    Sure it is more impressive to pull up to the valet stand somewhere in a prancing horse, but what does that really matter on a back country road having some thrills with your pals? Especially since most places I like to eat are just happy if you’re wearing pants at all. :)
    I just want to wait and see what the Z06 will look like without giant wings and splitters...
     
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    This is at @Gh21631 track day. I’m in the camp with your friend. And here’s some 765 pics for good measure
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