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GTSI door skins - dimension request

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  1. Du_Man

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    Sorry if this really doesn't deserve a post....

    Can someone give me this dimension (mm or in) for the curved lower door section on a GTSi? I understand it may vary depending on how much filler was added at the factory to create the smooth arc. I have a template that says this arc dimension is about 8 7/8" but I don't truly trust a door that has had previous "scabbing"! thank you
     
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    #3 rjlloyd, Aug 21, 2021
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    I had new genuine complete skins fitted to my doors, measure 221mm from bottom of door to bottom of swage line Image Unavailable, Please Login


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    Thank you, Richard, for exactly what I needed!
     
  5. 308 milano

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    Nice work Derek! Done this many times on many vehicles. Hard to be patient and let things cool but if you’re not you end up warping the panel when doing those long runs. even with a 110 welder . That looks really good!
    Noticed you have all the right tools. Not your first Rodeo!:)
     
  6. Du_Man

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    HaHa....it is my first and probably last door skin rodeo. I swear half the time restoring a 308 is sitting behind a computer reading/researching or watching a how-to video!
     
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    I thought you would measure this with the door on the car to get the lower edge correctly gapped from the rocker panel?


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  8. 308 milano

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    He can butt weld the two pieces of door skin together. The outer edge of the door is a pinch weld. Should be pretty well set just pinching the skin over the inner door frame tab but once the door is hung he can always adjust for gap fit/finish if needed at that same area.. :)
     
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    Correct as the way I have read about the process...... but I have read or viewed videos from guys saying the bodywork should really be done with the doors attached. I made templates and took measurements. Previous work was done on the doors so I am a little skeptical of everything done. Richard's measurement just helps me confirm that bottom edge baseline distance. Thank God the lower door edge is not like on a Porsche with a body/door gap!

    I did not study the arc profile of the lower door panel extensively, but it looks to me in my observation now, that that simple arc shape runs through basically consistently, throughout the full length of the car.....front to back. The rocker panels on this car were slightly mangled from improper car jack use....the driver side being the worse in condition. That, in turn, has disturbed that arc profile on the rear quarter slightly out of wack, making me realize I got some more hammering to do,
     
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    Reason I asked was my gt4 doors had been repaired off the car with the entire lower 6” replaced across the length of the door. The gap to the rocker started at 1/4” at the front and grew to 1/2” at the trailing edge. My restoration shop had commented that they would measure the repair panel on the car due to the large variations in dimensions of the door aperture.


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  11. 308 milano

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    Definitely something to be aware of for sure. Sounds like you’re inner door structure had been pushed up/damaged in someway. Good thing you’re repair shop caught it while crimping the panel in place. Usually holding a straight edge across the bottom of the inner panel pinch edge will show if there’s any deflection in that edge. Being pushed up 1/4” higher on any section of the door would show that the inner edge of the door and door skin were not properly mated together when you took your hammer and metal block to start working around closing the pinch weld. If this is in fact the case for someone, you can take a large coal chisel / hammer and beat the inner door some, moving it downward to fit the exterior panel :) Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
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  12. kiwiokie

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    The bad repair was done prior to me owning the car. The gt4 fits the body aperture slightly differently to the gts/b so it may be more critical on the gt4. Here is a pic of the gap. Ended up replacing them with NOS doors.

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