Some drivers have been doing very well in junior categories in the past, even winning championships, but that never translated in them being successful in F1, or even getting there. So we have to be cautious about too much expectation. In the opposite, some average drivers in the feeding series did quite well when they got to F1. Motor racing isn't an exact science, so we have to keep an open mind.
I am thinking of the fact that he is a Red Bull junior.. And if you are a junior for any team the best team to be a junior in for sure is Red Bull Red Bull is the team that use their junior drivers in Formula 1 and the fact that they have 2 Formula 1 teams makes it even better.. But off course there is so many talents that really deserves to be In Formula 1 that never got the chance. Like Nyck De Vries, Felix rosenquist and a lot of others So i agree with you in this... But i have watched Formula 3 for a few years as well and i have never seen a driver like Dennis Hauger... I think he is 18 years old but the way he drives is so mature, skilled and the passes he makes in the wet both on the inside and outside I really hope this young man gets his chance.. I wrote this for all members here that watches the F1 races.. Watch a formula 3 race as well because the races is so entertaining One more thing is that on a whole lot of Formula 1 websites people are saying that they find Formula 3 more entertaining than Formula 1 I for one was sure i would never ever say that i would find Formula 3 more entertaining than Formula 1..
I think Russell is the real deal - if you wanted to make an argument for or against him you can...It's hard to know if Kubica was still good, or if Latifi would be competitive against another teammate. Here's another way to look at it - show me another F1 driver, regardless of who their teammates are, that have a record like George's. I don't think there is one (honestly don't know, but since I started watching in the late 90's I don't remember one). Will pressure affect him - yep, he's human, gets everyone even the best. Will he win in a good car - yep, after Bahrain I don't think there's a doubt there What I can't believe is that no one has put him in a good car yet. FFS, put him in the McLaren if not the Merc
If that's your way of seeing things, so be it. I tend to look at a driver's palmares not at his last race. You started this thread to promote your favourite, that's fine, but time will tell.
Hamilton is my favourite, has been since he arrived on the scene in 2007. I've always had that niggling feeling though that he's been overrated for a good few number of years now and is made to look better because Bottas is in the other seat. Bottas is absolutely terrible on a Sunday, I'm sorry but that ain't going to bring out the best in Hamilton. Just my opinion of course but Rosberg and Button pushed him a hell of a lot more.
I am sure that Russel is a future World Champion.. There is no doubt about that.. But what about Lando Norris? I must say am mighty impressed with him as well. What about Daniel Ricciardo? We all know how good he is but it seems like he is struggling to get the McLaren F1 car working for him.. I just read about Dennis Hauger the Formula 3 leader that all of the top teams in Formula 2 wants him for the next season but i guess he would prefer to stay with his current team in Formula 3 which is Prema. So i guess he will drive for Prema in Formula 2 next season.. It guess it must be a very good feeling for a young Formula 3 driver knowing that all of the best Formula 2 teams wants to have you in their team. Note that Dennis Hauger is not a son with rich parents that pays everything for you.. It is Red Bull that pays for him..
If Russel goes to Mercedes i am sure that Russel being a young and hungry driver will push Hamilton for sure.. I think if Russel goes to Mercedes for the next season he might very well outperform Hamilton.. If Russel sit in Mercedes next year i really hope we will not see a whole bunch of team orders going in Hamiltons favour... f there is one thing i really hate in Formula 1 it is team orders I just watched a documentary about Ronnie Peterson signing on for Lotus again when Mario Andretti already was in the team and Andretti did not want 2 "star" drivers as he said so Ronnie Peterson signed on as a number 2 driver.. In interviews with the old lotus mechanics they said that they was told to add 5 extra gallons in Ronnie Peterson car and they did not put on the qualifying tires on Ronnies car either.. Even if they did this he would qualify in top and a lot of times better than Andretti. I was not aware that Ronnie Peterson was that good.. But i remember as a young boy watching Ronnie Peterson crash at Monza..
Junior categories have often been more entertaining to watch than F1. There is also the argument now that being all specs series, they really show who's the best of the lot. There is an ingredient missing for me to be interested: there is no diversity. At least in F1, you see 10 different design teams designing, building and developing their own car. For many F1 followers, I guess, that side of F1 is equally interesting.
This whole thread is similar nonsense as those "Tsunoda is a super fast rookie" posts earlier in the season (I imagine few still have blushes about that one). Some Englishmen seriously eat up Sky sports British propaganda like a marmalade sandwich in the morning. Russell has done nothing so far in his F1 career, and I repeat NOTHING (yes he hasn't had the car, but point still stands). Heck, neither Russell or Norris have never even got a pole position, let alone won a grand prix! Btw, the head to head Quali is 9-3 for Leclerc, so he is absolutely dominating Sainz (a guy who was pretty much equal with Norris). I don't know in what world the two young Brits are faster than Charles, he would eat them both up every day of the week and twice on Sunday. It's unbelievable that Leclerc still doesn't get the respect here that he deserves (in a Ferrari themed forum of all places). Honestly, I hope none of you doubters celebrate when he gets Scuderia its first WDC in over a decade.
He has done absolutely nothing apart from eat everyone up in qualifying not named Verstappen on Saturday, if you refuse to admit that is something damn special then you must not understand what was going off there. Speaking of Leclerc, I said it earlier, the score doesn't really mean much, it's the average gap to a teammate that is a true representative of speed, Leclerc just isn't showing to be much faster than a Sainz who is new to the team. You don't think Russell or Norris would have grabbed pole driving the 2019 Ferrari, think again!
I agree with most of this. It's just HYPE whipped around by over-enthusiast folks. Having followed F1 for the last 60 years, I wish people look at the large picture before getting excited. I have heard about plenty of "future world champions" announced over the years, and most of the time it never materialised. I don't mind people rooting for their favourite drivers; but please wait for them to get a decent palmares before ordering the violins. The real fact, is that about half the drivers who go through F1 finally leave without anything to show for it. You only have to look at the stats. Most drivers NEVER win a GP. ! Some never get a podium. I concur about Leclerc, and place him among the 3 best drivers of the moment, but I fear his loyalty to Ferrari will prevent him realising his potential. It's a personal opinion.
Some drivers may never get a win or a podium. I must agree with that when thinking of Nico Hulkenberg. Everybody knows he is a really talented driver My favorite driver in Formula is without any doubt Kimi Raikkonen I will admit that since he left Lotus after his comeback it looks like Kimi have lost the "hunger" to win He is a 1 time world champion but he should at least has been world champion 2 times when driving for McLaren The thing is that the McLaren was fast but the car broke down A little thing about the young Formula 3 driver i wrote about is that his manager is the same person that "discovered" Kimi Raikkonen and Jenson Button..
Average gap...you do know that even that stat is flawed; every circuit is different length and has different characteristics, and so the gap varies a lot even if the performance was similar. But since you mentioned it, the average gap between Lec and Sainz in Quali is around 0.3 seconds in Charles' favor. Do you still think they are "close"? Because the numbers don't lie.
You're wrong, up to Hungary Leclerc was just over a tenth faster on average. How is that stat flawed, it's the actual difference in lap time on average throughout the season. It gives the exact difference in speed unlike a scoreline.
That is a complete lie, I don't know where you get your numbers, before Hungary the gap was 0,3 for Lec. (And yes, I've got everything on Excel spreadsheet)
I'm on Autosport Forum mate, they have a dedicated thread to qualifying averages. Sainz has performed better than anyone relative to their teammates who have just joined another team.
I agree, KImi's best years where at McLaren but the car was plagued by unreliability then The infighting at McLaren in 2007 (Alonso- Hamilton) benefited Kimi during his first season at Ferrari for him to take the title. I saw him slowly declining after that, and he didn't show much motivation for his return at the Scuderia.
They must have added both guys time differences together and divided that; I'm sorry but doesn't really tell a good picture. The outcome of that would be 0,154 for Lec; yet from all the times Charles' out qualified Sainz, only ones did he do it with that low of a margin. The times Lec out qualified Sainz he did it in average by 0,3 seconds.
Also I'll add that head to head is the best way to measure team mates; the 9-3 score means that when Leclerc and Sainz enter Qualification, 75% of the time Leclerc comes out on top.
Exactly. Senna has 3 titles compared to Lewis' 7. Is lewis 2.3 times as good as Senna? Max has zero titles, is Jacques Villenueve a better driver?
Success can be measured, objectively; that's why there is a structured championship since 1950. The degree of success is determined by the number of points, podiums, GPs and championships each driver obtains, and the stats don't lie. Comparing drivers of different eras is pointless and leads to subjective comments, mostly based on preference or emotion. A driver's palmares shows how successful he was against his peers during the period he was racing, and NOT against drivers of different periods.
But the sport is more about machine than man, it kinda makes a difference which car a driver sits in.
That parameter has ALWAYS existed in F1 since it started back in 1950; some cars perform better than others.
So is Russell LOL! Please keep posting this drivel about Bottas so I can remind you that on camera, Horner admit and stated Bottas did not at all do that on purpose. Guess you need a new bandaid for your trauma.
