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Hamilton deserves more respect

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  1. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    Absolutely true,
    I remember some Ferrari engineers were amazed that schumacher asked them how they didn’t win the title with a car and an engine like that!
     
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  2. jgonzalesm6

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    #2027 jgonzalesm6, Sep 2, 2021
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    True but different era's required different work ethics from the drivers. As technology advances, the "work" gets less and less from the drivers.

    I will add that Lewis has more brain sensory interaction in the car than say Senna, Schumi, or Vettel due to the technology that comes with the steering wheel functions.
     
  3. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    Yes Schumacher era had more technology advances and less work ethics than Clark, Stewart era. Hamilton, Kimi, Alonso are among the few on the grid to win nearly 15 years ago in cars that were less technical. Leclerc, Max, Russell and other young drivers has had the most technological advances.
     
  4. ricksb

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    Yes, all the different colors of "Rossa" throughout the years, from Burgandy-ish to almost-orange. The Ferrari does have an iconic and standalone color scheme, even with the variations.
     
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  5. pilotoCS

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  6. jgonzalesm6

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    Tommy Hilfiger urban attire??? (Jeeez)

    He certainly does'nt conform like the rest of the the current F1 field in attire when entering the track. Yeah, it's different that's for sure and that's probably what he wants to create when it comes to his personal attire.
     
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  7. spirot

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    Ummm... Not really. After Ferrari fired Prost they had Alesi - good but undeveloped, and WAY too emotional, and then a string of poor Italian drivers. Then they got Berger back, and I think they won 2 - 3 races from 93 - 96. The Architect of Ferrari's return to F-1 Champion was Jean Todt. then add in Ross Brawn and Schumacher and Byrne .. that was the secret sauce. Todt was able to take all the blame, and all the pressure - translate what was needed to Montezemolo, and it worked. once the damn was broken it kept on working.... but the credit goes to the combo of Todt, Schumacher and Brawn. I guess Montezemolo gets the ultimate credit of keeping the faith with them.... Hamilton has not done anything like that - other than be able to hone the car to his needs, which is admirable but still not in the league of Schumacher.
     
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  8. spirot

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    Senna arrived at McLaren in 88. McLaren won the championship in 84, 85, 86, and again in 88, 89, 90, 91. So yes, With Senna they dominated but Prost and Lauda - and Prost clearly dominated from 84 - 89... 88 was the out year when Senna won. 87 Prost lost to Piquet by 2-3 points.. I'll have to look it up, but it was not a huge difference.
     
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  9. spirot

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    well, its better than last weekend. I don't know who is giving this kid any advice... but a stylest he needs badly.
     
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  10. 375+

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    None of the current cars look good--they resemble insects.
     
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  11. spirot

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    Wow... I don't think you guys realize the "work ethic" of Clark, Stewart, and Surtees etc... those guys raced 12 months a year. F-1 was only 7-9 races a season max. but they also raced saloons, Stock cars, Indy, sports cars, Rally, etc... F2, F3 and in Stewarts case CAN AM and also did road car development. Dont tell me about today's F-1 drivers work ethic, or effort.

    In Clark & Stewart's day, you never knew for sure if you were coming back to the pits alive - at any time. test, race or practice / qualifying. ... you not only needed balls, but your work ethic had to be huge to get in the car and survive.

    NONE of todays drivers can hold a candle to Jackie Stewart. if he were able, I'm 100% sure he'd destroy Hamilton in the same machine.
     
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  12. william

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    Yes, Senna didn't built a team around him, nor did he bring dominance to McLaren; he benefited from it.

    One could say its Lauda and Prost who made McLaren prominent in F1.
     
  13. william

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    Todt built a winning team at Ferrari with the staff he poached from Benetton: Schumacher, Brawn and Byrne.

    Ferrari offered better facilities, but also a bigger cheque book, so there was no hesitation.
     
  14. Dino2010

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    No, they don't.
    Besides that, if you would catch the ideology of the first Silberpfeile, you would understand that painting any racecar of a factory Mercedes team in any color different than silver, is a disgrace to the founders.
     
  15. ktu

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    Good points, again my point is the Ferrari team was not in shambles as the poster stated. They were 3rd best team before he came. Again, Hamilton, Senna, Clark and other greats don't need to assist in team building as Schumacher did. There are many other ways to be great. They were all great in their own way.
     
  16. fer312t

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    The Silberpfeile "ideology" was about unsentimental weight saving, was it not?
     
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    His target market (e.g. my daughters) love it. They think my simpler attire is 'stodgy and boring'.
     
  18. william

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    There was no "ideology" behind stripping the white paint from German cars to make them respect the 750kg maximum weight limit that was in force under the Formula Libre of that era.

    That was totally improvised as a last minute practical solution.

    BTW, What "founders" are you talking about ?
     
  19. Bas

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    You're aware that the only reason Ferrari was a recent race winning team was because of a single crazy race, right? Rain affected, Schumacher with a 70 second pitstop, both Williams' DNF.

    It's like Lewis moving to Alpine next year and calling it a race winning team, because hey, they won Hungary this year.
     
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    I thought his answer was odd when talking about kimi, knowing he didn’t really have much interaction with him
     
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  22. william

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    Different days, different answers. :p

    That's a tactic many have cultivated to a fine art, politicians in particular.

    I use that with the wife; it works a treat.

    Does it really matter to most folks ? Not a lot ...

    You are really conducting a full investigation on that Hamilton suspect, aren't you ? ;)
     
  23. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    U are reaching here


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  24. Bas

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    When Alonso retires again maybe Lewis will say the same thing, again:p

    I just find it funny how, in the space of a year, he's used the same story for 2 different drivers.
     
  25. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No, that way he will have honoured 3 people rather than one, had he stuck to his original story. ;)

    It's like an obituary, it's good if you can re-use it again and again !!

    I think you are in urgent need of a sense of humour transplant. :D
     

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