458 458 vs 458 speciale

As you can see from the last picture, due to the hard top the line of the spider is almost identical to the Italia and, trust me, the pros outweigh the cons by a stretch. I had the same thought in mind but I got used to it really quickly (in fact 14 secs!).

Lastly, resell value is higher too.

 

458 coupe was my first Ferrari. I have subsequently purchased more than fifty so be careful, lol.

I had sold, then bought another Speciale. It is a great driving car. I enjoy tracking it occasionally even though I have the 458 Challenge racecar as well.

I do not do extended warranties. Those companies selling them do so at prices to make a profit.

I do not put after market exhausts on Ferraris except the F50 which has a Tubi. A few 430 and 458 models I put on a valve opener.

I agree with you that the Speciale and 458 standout from their turbo-charged counterparts. While slower, the run up in RPM’s is more exciting and visceral than the look and click nature of the faster revving turbo machines.

Only thing I might suggest is to also drive a 430 Scuderia and a 360 Challenge Stradale. Those two cars are even more visceral than the Speciale. If I could have only one non supercar Ferrari, it might well be a 360 Challenge Stradale.

 

As a fellow Dane, I will strongly advise you against buying cash. You need to do what the rest of us do and use the benefits of Flex leasing, especially on an older car where monthly payments are low for the time you're on plates. It also protects you from taking a big hit the day you sell as it opens up the possibility of selling all over Europe without losing what you paid for registration.

The absolutely most sensible thing to do is to head to Lyngby at have a chat with the guys. No matter if you find the car yourself or let them find one, they can help you with the practical stuff.

You should also take into consideration that most of your fellow Ferrari owners here in DK won't consider purchasing your car if they have to pay full registration. So again, you are either forced to sell abroad and take a big loss as Skat won't reimburse much of what you paid in registration tax, or a loss because we normally deal in Euro prices without registration. If you don't know the in's and out's of the Flex Leasing game, you need to sit down at talk to a professional about it.

Don't see this as njt owning the car, because you do and you are ultimately accountable to cover a loss or take the profit once the car is sold. That's the beauty of Flex Leasing. It has basically been concocted to make owning these cars less problematic.

The only cars here normally paid in full right off the bat, are vintage stuff and some of the halo models etc. but a 458 you Flex Lease in DK.

Most of us have the "summer cars" on plates from around the last week of April and to the end of September. Then we switch to the winter cars.

As for 458 Italia or Speciale? Just too many things I think they fixed on the Speciale to even make that a question.

The 458 Spider? It's nothing like a 488 or F8 Spider. It is very soft and flimsy in its chassis, as it shakes and wobbles its way down the freeway.

Set up an appointment with Formula and take it from there.



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Will add that DK is fine for a Spider. The summer we had this year was actually a bit too hot at times. Have been driving the 812 top-down non-stop since weather got nice this Thursday. Just know that as I said before, the 458 Spider comes with a big penalty in stiffness. It's a cruiser more than a sharpened b-road carving tool.

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+1
CS so good I bought 2.
But I have yet to drive a Scud or 16m

 

This.

They are nothing alike. Several little things make the Speciale engine feel totally different.

Lighter rotating assembly.
Higher static and dynamic compression.
More aggressive cams.
More free flowing exhaust.
Different mapping.
Totally different and better mapped throttle tip-in and response.
Different TCU programming which makes the Speciale feel more planted during shifts - it's smoother.
Much better brake cooling and larger brake pads.
Less darty and a more connected steering feel.

In many ways the Speciale is what the 458 Italia should have been and a spec sheet does not even begin to tell the whole story.

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Agreed. It's the only downside for me. But the fact is that it's less noticeable with the top up, give the hard top. So I've learned to live with it. But yes, VERY shaky especially if the road is not super smooth.

 

Wow, I didn't know there were so many differences. Since I drive my 458S pretty hard and have tracked it 3x in 1 year, I'd love to experience the Speciale one day! But the price is just crazy...

 

Well, the truck is pretty fun to drive

Ray

 

From that perspective, you’re right!


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Wait wait, you bought 50 Ferrari’s since your 458?? Which Ferraris?


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Everything you can imagine and mor

 

I just don’t see the SVJ as a a solid handling car, say through the canyons


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16m pretty amazing


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Speciale so good I bought 4.

 

Remember it was the record holder for the Ring, so something works well in the corners.

 

Agree.like the Perf. it really does not live up to the hype once you put it on a track. No doubt that the car they used on the Ring was not set up in the sane way as,a customer car apart from the tyres. Having tracked the regular SV twice, I just don't see how they can change the car to become a nimble and swift feeling performer. The SV felt as cilumberso.e and clunky as any other Aventador I've been in, and when I talk to drivers of SVJ's that I know can really drive, they tell me it's just more of the same.

Now the Pista and 765 on the other hand, they are serious canyon carvers.

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Yes the stiffness matters. It's not just something that shows when pushing hard. Even going down the freeway the car shakes and wobbles when you pass a joint in the road surface, cross a bridge etc. Of all the different styles of drop top cars I've driven, the 458 is probably the one that has been the most noticable as the car doesn't hide the flex as other cars sometimes do. To me it makes the car feel like it tries to be something it's not. I'm a huge drop top guy, but despite that, I just cannot get to terms with how the 458 Spider feels.

Considering the fact that the season is almost over, why not just tell FA what you like and let them find a car and do the PPI? Who's your sales rep?

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Could be

No, the GTS is nothing like the 458. Much, much stiffer. Same goes for the 488 and F8 Spider as well. They reworked the 458 SA a bit, and then did even more on the 488. The thing is that the 458 was developed pre-McLaren, and there really wasn't a benchmark. Then after McLaren came out with stiff drop tops, Ferrari decided to seriously up the game with the 488 Spider.

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From a purely statistical standpoint if it is a lucrative profitable business model to sell extended warranties then you know it isn’t worth it to buy one. It is a whole industry that thrives on the anxiety of the individual.

 

Not only does the 488 spider not approach the stiffness of the comparable Mclaren or Huracan models, the F8 spider still suffers from rigidity issues and cowlshake.