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Hamilton deserves more respect

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  1. jgonzalesm6

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    2 heads are better than 1 (@ktu)

    Prove your analysis because I and probably others want to know.
     
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  2. ktu

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    Have you heard of the nickname crashtappen? If so, there is the proof of reputation.
     
  3. jgonzalesm6

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    Nice try but that's not gonna fly.

    I want proof and the link please.
     
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    Dude. Google crashtappen. Don't bring this weak argment to me lol. You need to be glad i'm entertaining you right now as you try to change the focus of Max actions to a Lewis debate.
     
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    Negative!!!!! You stood up for @Natkingcolebasket69 post.

    I want penalties for Lewis in his 14 year career vs. Max's penalties in his 5 year career and let's compare both of them.

    Otherwise you and @Natkingcolebasket69 are trying to defend a baseless narrative without proof. Capice??
     
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    ^^^this^^^

    "Crashtappen" = proof ??? LoL.
     
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    Ham is having plenty of incidents this season, some entirely by his own accord. falling off the track in wet conditions / outbraking himself / poor starts etc.

    His mindset is heading back to 2016 again, before things became plain sailing for him with Bottas.
     
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    I respect Lewis...for how well he treats his dog, Roscoe.
     
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    Should this list include accidents with Massa, Maldanado, Rosberg, Albon, Max, even when stewards let it slide without penalty ?
     
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    Just what's on the books-->penalties that the stewards have dished out.

    The 2FChatters in question said penalties...not accidents.
     
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    maybe the problem isnt the drivers but the inconsistent stewards. time to bring in AI to make these calls?
     
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    With the advent of technology I don't see why the FIA cannot live-stream said GP to all available stewards into there homes and take a consensus of said penalty for better consistency.
     
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    You sure, he’s made his dog vegan.
     
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    Thats animal cruelty
     
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    Are u smoking lol?
    U really want to go there?

    https://f1.fandom.com/wiki/Penalty_points

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    Thanks but not being obtuse - as per your original statement where you mentioned incidents, and me too, and there was mention of penalties.

    By penalties I meant exactly that - penalties for incidents such as collisions etc and then getting penalised via a stop/go whatever by the stewards.

    I could have googled superlicense points myself but was referring to your original statement of Hamilton having less incidents than Verstappen. Not having less points on his license.

    So has Hamilton had less incidents than Max ? Source please :D;):D

    Best,
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    Fyi.....the penalty point system currently in F1 was introduced in 2014. Prior to 2014, there was no penalty point system. Had there been a penalty point system that is currently in place BACK IN 2007, it's possible Lewis would have accrued more penalty points total.
     
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    I know... I do feel bad for the dog, but it seems like Lewis takes good care of him, or has someone doing it.
     
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    We can debate semantics all day long, I do not shy away from my opinion that Max - although much better this year,is a hot head.
    I was never a lewis fan but I dislike Max’s attitude so I am Leaning towards Lewis.
    I do like a lot better Norris, Russell, Leclerc even Sainz who are all personable and friendly as well as talented


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    I like Randy’s simple intuitive analysis with no bias. A great find.
     
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    For every Randy there is a Josh Webster, Scott Mansell, Paul Di Resta, Martin Brundle, Felipe Massa and so on (who all called it a racing incident).
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    The point is, when there are so many racing drivers disagreeing with the stewards, it's yet more evidence that this was a racing incident. They've had the opportunity to analyze the accident from many different angles. Lewis and Max both made a decision in mere seconds. Lewis created the gap, Max went for the gap, and they collided. Had Lewis closed off the gap by making a more square angle into T1, Max would've had no option but go wide.
     
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    You all are missing the point. Just because you see it as a racing incident does'nt mean Max made a good decision. There would be no "racing incident " if Max had done like Lewis did on the first lap or Leclerc did later in the race. Which is make the right judgement, choose between crashing or aborting the corner. Given Max's history I don't see why some of you see this different. Max has a championship to win, CALM DOWN and ABORT passing and don't crash, as other drivers did.
     

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