F8 190 mph run vs 720S Spider. Close race!

Good lord. I’m at a loss for words.

 

You should write for fortune cookies.

 

Ferrari has a lot of history but citing clasiche as a reason to buy? Who cares. Truth be told right now both Mclaren and Ferrari are making the best products they ever have. All these cars are objectively incredible. I prefer Ferraris broad range but in the super mid engined class the 720S/765LT is superior. So much so that Ferrari released the F8 in the first place.

 

Those who own horses are more stable.

 

Didnt Ferrari lose to Ford a few years back in some race??

 

Any car that does not have the prancing horse attached to it has no history, devoid of a legacy and is downright like Muhammed Ali called Joe Frazier- " ugly". Not for me.
Do you actually own a Ferrari?

 

Those that hate Mclaren cause their is not history there, should not be fans of Ferrari. They should be fans of Mercedes. One of the oldest brands - absolutely dominating F1 right now, lots and lots of history. Thats the brand you should worship. Mercedes definitely has history!

 

Hopefully Cognoscenti was not alive during that time.

 

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I don’t hate Mclaren- they’re an incredible conpany doing phenomenal things. I just don’t prefer to spend my money on their products.

That said, good and valid point about Mercedes. But For similar reasons of history, I refuse to buy certain German products that had a bit of a dark era during WW2.


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Buy whatever you want. Its your money. But if you would open your mind a bit and not be so product centric, you might enjoy things a bit more. Actually dont. Stick with Ferrari. Its the only game in town.

 

You’re a wild dude with wild reasoning but I gotta say, I dig people with principles and it’s your money so keep sticking to them man. Don’t compromise!!!

 

Ferrari is a brand apart.

Mclaren makes great sports cars, they have done a fantastic job waking Ferrari up who have been resting on their past success and have become a bit lazy. But with that said they are a company that made their first car in 1947. You cannot discount their history and amazing vintage cars as a part of the heritage that makes their current cars what they are today, that's like saying the Mclaren F1 is not a crucial part of the DNA that impacts their current range.

The 166 Inter, game changer, the 375 MM dominated, the complete 250 range are all significant cars in shaping automotive history. Ferrari to date has still won more F1 races than any other manufacturer, and yes all with their own engines, and yes, that matters. Ferrari has won more races than Mclaren and Ferrari has won more awards on their engines than Mclaren. They have also won more overarching awards on their passenger cars over time than Mclaren.

As for the current topic at hand. the 488 Pista and F8 are based on the 458, a car that launched in 2009, this is part of Ferrari getting a little lazy and not accepting that there is real competition in the market, capable competition. The 720S is a limited edition launch and the successor of the 650 range which came out in 2014, its a much new platform and car. Ferrari is "woke" now and their new range represents their commitment to higher performance, manufacturing and technology. Compare the 720S to the 296, this is a modern car, one that is more in line with the 720S, which was development on a newer platform.

I spent a week driving with one of the Ferrari FNA drivers, he won the 24 hour of Le Mans in his class, holds a record at the Nurburgring, he occasionally does events with Mclaren and Porsche, and to quote him "the 296 and SF90 are the two most capable road cars I have ever driven"

Mclaren makes great cars, I am not a fan of the styling, but they make great cars, they are a creative manufacturer, they are making headway in F1 again, I have total respect for Bruce Mclaren and the company. Ferrari just makes better cars, and is a better car manufacturer, is more capable in all forms of motor racing, a company Mclaren will never be. Can and will Mclaren, Porsche and Lamborghini make faster cars than some Ferrari's at some point, yes, but that will not make them a batter mark.

Truly dive into the history of Motorsports, engine manufacturing, coach building, automotive design both past and present, vintage automobiles, F1 and the history of the race car and you cannot deny the dominance of Ferrari, like I said above, they are a brand apart who manufacture a car apart.

If it is just about performance for you, than let me end with this "the 296 is faster than the 720S"

What it should be is not a factor of who is faster, but a factor of what car is better, a car is much more than its 1/4 mile trap time.

IMHO

 

To my prior post, the F8 put down a faster 1/4 mile than the 720S on all three races. Additionally, below is a list of lap times on 13 tracks and the Pista beats the 720S on 11 of the 13.


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That I respect.

 

Chris Harris- “ The 720s is the most complete super car and possibly ever built”. 2020

 

Then Chris should absolutely buy one...

 

Harris is a very knowledgeable and respected reviewer and experienced and accomplished race car driver.

 

I agree

 

Harris was not impressed with the SF90. Said it felt heavy and excessively complicated. Subsequently drove the F8 and commented that it was much more satisfying.

 

I suspect many SF90 owners also have a Pista (and probably an 812 as well). For a high proportion of Ferrari clients, the SF is an ‘and’ car, not an ‘or’.

 

Not understanding your point. Harris was disappointed in the SF90 and had no interest in driving it further. By direct comparison found the F8 far more satisfying and enjoyable to drive. Based upon this evaluation, why would someone want the SF90 and especially at twice the price.

 

These are different cars with different performance and overall objectives. While I respect Harris’s opinions and his driving ability, his preferences don’t speak for all, especially those clients who already own numerous Ferraris and appreciate variety within their collection.

I’ll admit that I remain tempted to add an SF90 Spider however I’m still struggling to fall in love with the front end (I LOVE the rear). It would have been a done deal by now otherwise.

 

I hope 296 is faster than the 720S. It’s priced with the LT, though. And I don’t believe it will run with the LT. I think they’d pair so well together, however. Perhaps I’ll shift the TTS for a 296 and add in the C8 Z06 to replace the C8. Nice line up I think.