Taycan. Owners only. Thoughts?

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For what it's worth, I think the real comparison is with a Tesla. An EV is always going to be too quiet if you find a Huracan suits your tastes.

I will defer to owners. Our local Porsche dealer can't even keep them on the lot long enough for a test drive, so good luck.

 

Interested in opinions as well…


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Not an owner but drove a base one for 15mns in Connecticut. It's very nice to drive. But does not bring any emotions. I really felt like a passenger. Which i guess is more and more the point. It's a beautiful car for sure, love how it looks but im just not there where i want that sort of quietness.

If Porsche made a V8 version, it would be an amazing machine.

 

Not an owner either, but I test drove a 'Turbo' version. I thought it was a blast to drive. Thought it had great feel and handled really well. Everyone seems to equate noise with 'soul' but ignore that most new cars have faked engine / exhaust notes.

Ended up not getting one because there wasn't enough space inside for the family. It seemed to have alot less passenger and cargo space compared to a similarly sized Tesla (it's only 2" shorter than a Model S).

Panamera?

 

The Panemera just does not look nearly as beautiful as the Taycan. The 2nd gen improved a lot but still not a pretty car whereas the Taycan is almost gorgeous. Certainly one of the best 4 doors ever in the looks department.

 

SportTurismo- fixes the lines, more practical to boot…
I drove a Taycan (before buying the SportTurismo)- liked it, but too small, back seats were worthless. When my dealer gets the SportTurismo Taycan demo- I’ll go take another look.

 

I do love the turismo indeed. Still the Taycan is in a class of its own.

 

Had a Tesla P85d when it came out. "Undid" the purchase 2 weeks later. Coming from Porsche, Audi, BMW etc. cars and getting into a Tesla was (at least at that time) a huge downgrade for anything but the straight line acceleration.

Had a Taycan 4S in 2020 and part of this year. Traded it in because we moved from The Netherlands (with a terrific EV infrastructure) to Spain (without any EV infrastructure to speak of).

My thoughts, in short:

• Fast but not 'sensational'. That is mostly due to the missing sound, I think. I sometimes switched on the Porsche Sound thing but it really doesn't compare to the sound of an ICE car.
• Excellent daily driver. Really: reliable, fast, spacious (enough) and very nice to drive especially when you get the rear wheel steering option (a must for me should I ever order another one).
• Never worried about mileage. I drove it like I drive my normal cars; I had a charger at home so the car was always 100% full when I left. I never had to drive more than 350 km in a day so didn't care about the supposedly better mileage of a Tesla.
• Feels proper Porsche. Nice materials, plenty of personalisation options. That said: all modern Porsches feel a bit 'clinical'.

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Just got a Tycan and would say I totally enjoy the ride, performance and tech stuff. The reason the Tycan is so good it is a bridge from ICE to BEV. Not Tesla tech but enough for the target audience. The car will improve over time as Porsche sends updates over the air. Yes the car is quiet and hearing exhaust is something most of us grew up with, now we have a Star Trek car doing warp speed more a visual and physical feel than auditory. The future is coming and for sure BEV’s will become better. One owners opinion.

 

Agree 100%.
The SportTurismo is an absolutely gorgeous car

 

IS PORSCHE HIDING A BATTERY FIRE PROBLEM IN THE TAYCAN?
Just type the words "Porsche Taycan fire" into Google. Now only one lonesome car, in Florida, but I am still miffed from back when Porsche had the intermediate shaft problem in the Boxster that there was no consumer movement for Porsche to pay for all repairs. They did it selectively. Now if Porsche has a problem and it is like the Bolt (where GM had to recall every single one of them) I will be miffed at the Porsche community for not making the problem known. Or am I just too excitable?

Videp here:https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/porsche-taycan-allegedly-explodes-and-catches-fire-burning-down-garage-video/

 

I can't read German but here's a story from Germany about a Taycan fire,, maybe the same one, and I get the impression Porsche isn't talking

https://www.pcwelt.de/news/Bericht-Porsche-Taycan-explodiert-und-setzt-Garage-in-Brand-10757052.html

 

Picked up our 2022 Taycan Cross Turismo last week and my impressions mirror René’s above. The only thing I’d add is this car rips on the exits and twisties with the low center of gravity and how it carries the weight. You definitely know it’s a Porsche from the drive to the materials and we’re happy with it this far… plus it’s cool looking too!
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That's a great looking car Joe. Congratulations!

 

Why can’t they stuff Panamera mechanicals inside a Taycan body?

I’d buy that in a heartbeat.

Matt

 

My biggest complaint was that the UI/UX within the car was cumbersome and not ideal for a daily car. I also had a lot of issues with the mobile app, it never seemed to work and if it did the capabilities were minimal. Maybe some of this has been corrected as I had an early turbo S. Also, I have recently been made aware that if the car flexes a tiny bit it will become a total loss so be very careful jacking it up or if you track do not hit any curbing. Something to do with the batteries but I dint recall the details. Also, Porsche denying under warranty (so far).

 

@bitzman
https://www.teslarati.com/porsche-whistleblower-taycan-battery-charger-fires-coverup/

read that and here is an excerpt which is intriguing:

A Remarkably Short Warranty
An apparent hint of Porsche’s challenges with the Taycan’s battery could be seen in the warranty for the all-electric sports car, which happens to be one of the lowest on the market with just 60,000 km or three years if following conditions (Porsche Warranty Requirements) are not met:

Vehicles standing longer than two weeks supposed to be connected to a charger

• Customers must assure that the Taycan’s state of charge remains between 20% – 50%
• Customers must make sure that their Taycan is not exposed to continuous sunlight

Vehicles standing longer than two weeks not connected to a charger

• Customers must charge the Taycan’s battery before to 50%
• Customers must check every three months and assure SoC remains at or above 20%
• Customers must assure that their vehicle’s temperature is between 0C – 20C

While 160,000 km is an average battery warranty in the industry, Porsche confirmed to me the 100,000 km lower, 60,000 km warranty and its restrictions.

 

We had initial issues with the app but using both (my Porsche and Porsche connect) seems to offset each others shortcomings thus far. I understand 2021 was also a significant UI revision (still a bit clunky but once it’s set it’s easier) and the 21/22s have more quick links etc along with plug and charge ability the earlier ones didn’t.

 

porsche made same mistake with ev as they did when introduced pdk. everyone wants paddles on their dct but porsche decided to go their own way with buttons instead. was awful in my 1st gen panamera and of course, they switched to paddles eventually. now theyre doing same thing with ev. huge benefit of ev is single pedal driving while using brakes to regen battery just like tesla does but porsche does not. thats a major advantage of ev that would keep me in tesla until porsche decides to do it the right way.

 

Bought a Taycan to replace the M8 coupe. Previous owner of 2 Tesla’s and I typically hate EVs. The Tesla’s drove like crap. Very soggy and loose.

For a daily, the Taycan is brilliant. I’m really enjoying it. I have the 4s and it’s plenty of power for me with the other cars in the garage.

The interface is ok- not great but not terrible. This is really where Tesla shines.

It handles well enough and frankly it’s not a great sports car but it’s a very capable and competent daily. Thumbs up from me.

 

This is incorrect: The Taycan does the same thing as a Tesla but just in a different way.

It’s a smart brake pedal: the first part of you hitting the brake pedal actually translates to engine braking. The second part (when you hit the brakes harder/push the pedal deeper) also the actual brakes join in.

The reason they choose this instead of “one pedal driving” is that Porsche believes that their buyers actually enjoy driving and being in control. Furthermore, a large percentage of buyers is in Europe and on the autobahn. High speed and one pedal driving are not necessarily a good combination…

Read more about it: https://insideevs.com/reviews/397503/porsche-taycan-regenerative-braking-deep-dive/

 

But here we use ev for in town commuting where I pedal driving is huge advantage. Guaranteed porsche will change this just like they did pdk buttons. Stubborn german engineers take while to realize others may have good idea too.

 

When I first saw the Mission E, I went directly to my dealer and put a deposit down for an early allocation. Loved the looks of the Mission E, the Taycan looks are pretty close. But when the Taycan was first delivered to my dealer, I carefully hooked over the car and its specs and passed keeping my Pano TS as my DD. It just seemed, IMO Porsche over promised, undelivered and over priced the Taycan, the looks with standing