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  1. lagunacc

    lagunacc F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

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    That's how you know the whole new PU story is nonsense.

    Toto knows that car is illegal.
     
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  2. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ Rossa Subscribed

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    Updated Constructors' standings:

    1. Mercedes - 521.5 pts
    2. Red Bull - 510.5 pts
    3. Ferrari - 287.5 pts
    4. McLaren - 256 pts
    5. Alpine - 112 pts
    6. AlphaTauri - 112 pts
    7. Aston Martin - 68 pts
    8. Williams - 23 pts
    9. Alfa Romeo - 11 pts
    10. Haas - 0 pts



    Updated drivers standings


    1. Verstappen - 332.5 pts
    2. Hamilton - 318.5 pts
    3. Bottas - 203 pts
    4. Perez - 178 pts
    5. Norris - 151 pts
    6. Leclerc - 148 pts
    7. Sainz - 139.5 pts
    8. Ricciardo - 105 pts
    9. Gasly - 92 pts
    10. Alonso - 62 pts
     
  3. ricksb

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    RBR could choose to replace their PU’s also…
     
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  4. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Prove it. State the proof. Link it. Horner on camera was not about to protest. Id be happy to see it. I dont like cheaters in F1 but conspiracy is not proof. Hard to say this weekend the FIA is owned by Mercedes eh??????
     
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  5. furoni

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    I noticed that and thought...hummmm
     
  6. ricksb

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    the RBR was that way last weekend. Ham’s new engine is, or course, a heavy contributor but in the hands of VB he hasn’t been able to overcome Max. We can’t tell what will happen from one circuit to the next, but it was thought that RBR held the advantage for both Mexico & Brazil and the pundits were half right. The last three reportedly favor Merc, but I’ll wait and see what occurs at each circuit. Planet F1 actually had Verstappen win 3 of the final four, only giving the nod to Hamilton at Abu Dhabi because Max will have already wrapped up the title.
     
  7. Thecadster

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    Christian Horner said that Honda PU’s only degrade a single tenth of a second. Unlike the Benz’s, RBR can’t just find another 100 HP with a PU replacement.
     
  8. furoni

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    Lec is catching Norris, good on him
     
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  9. DF1

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    Too easy to complain and put Marko on camera to spread lies and conspiracy lol. Who needs a a new PU LOL :)
     
  10. DF1

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    Hamilton fined for undoing seatbelts on cool-down lap in Brazilian GP
    By: Luke Smith
    Nov 14, 2021, 3:33 PM
    Lewis Hamilton has been hit with a fine for undoing his seatbelts on the cool-down lap following Sunday’s Formula 1 race at Interlagos.
     
  11. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ Rossa Subscribed

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    Marko said a new PU from Honda is worth an extra 3kw......Mercedes's new PU is worth about 15kw.

    Don't ask me how he knows this. Marko feels deflated after today.
     
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  12. furoni

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    older days!
     
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  13. furoni

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    No way that merc engine is the same they started the year with, now ****ing way....toto is cheating all over the place...
     
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    Wouldn't say Toto..more like the engineers. But I wouldn't go as far to call it cheating tho. They have some how found some extra power. That car was crazy fast this weekend..how they accomplished this should be looked into.

    Both Hamilton and Bottas have had PU changes this year numerous times..none have come close to this units performance level.
     
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  15. Thecadster

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    The internet sleuths will get to bottom of this PU brouhaha.
     
  16. classic308

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    I thought some sort of engine freeze was in place or is that after this year?
     
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  17. tbakowsky

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    Not sure. Maybe other can chime in with the answer..
     
  18. classic308

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    Never mind it’s from the end of 2021 so teams can continue development. Kudos to MB’s engineering department- yet again.
     
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    I'm betting Merc turned the engine up a bit for this weekend to make up for the anticipated 5 place penalty - they'll probably turn it back down next weekend. This is how the inability to change engine modes during a weekend plays out, and honestly I kind of like it. Great drive by Hamilton, pretty exciting race overall. Ferrari seems to have really cemented 3rd place at this point, the only non RB or Merc not to get lapped and in a normal season where they would actually be developing the car, I'd imagine they'd be battling at the front as the chassis appears to be quite good. If only they had the '19 cheater engine...
     
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  20. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ Rossa Subscribed

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    Gasly is currently responsible for 82% of his teams points.

    Looks like another awesome year for him.
     
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    Sounds most plausible…
     
  22. classic308

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    they are basically racing a car with a 2 year old chassis. Under the rules they could only develop the rear suspension and as such were limited in development due to “tokens”. I’m confident that with the new rules they will be more competitive, they apparently solved their correlation issues, etc.
     
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    Name the star of the Brazilian Grand Prix?
     
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  24. subirg

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    Enjoyed that. Titanic battle at the front from the best two drivers in this years grid fighting it out in the two best cars. Given all the in season crashes and incidents between these two so far, I was expecting more of the same, but somehow that didn’t happen.

    Max was lucky that the stewards have finally realised that hard racing should be allowed. Earlier in the season, he would definitely have got a penalty. Max drove superbly to try and defend his lead, but Ham had the advantage today and got the job done. I will admit I thought Max would leave Brazil with the wdc more or less in the bag. But no, the season is very much alive and it looks like it’s going all the way to Abu Dhabi. Epic stuff and a fitting send off for what will otherwise be described as the dullest era in F1 history.
     
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  25. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Many many thanks to f1tv for showing an image of the ****ing winner as the main picture of the stream. Just ****ing perfect.
     

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