FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRANDE PREMIO DE SAO PAULO 2021 - Sao Paulo - RACE.. ▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS▄▀▄▀▄▀

I saw this earlier and if it is a real video (which it appears to be), then it should be enough to DQ the Mercedes from the race (if it was filmed during the race). After 2020 the FIA banned the steering from moving on an axis like that.

 

I'm thinking, if it has a function, it's related to the suspension drop if anything. All suspension drops, but the footage we saw from Turkey, the merc drops very suddenly, as if a button is pushed indeed.

 

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333 vs 301

I know youvr been watching 60 years of racing but 32 kph is 32 kph. Looks like you need to re-adjust what you think a 20mph speed difference is.
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100% but they cannot disrupt the Max / Lewis show otherwise the whole circus would fall flat on its face. Not quite the Prost / Senna war but had LH been a tad more hot headed then it would have finished in tears yesterday.

That Merc ( well hammy's at least) blew everyone away yesterday, it looked like the Ferrari was stuck in the wrong gear such was the speed differential.

I truly am amazed at how Masi called it a racing incident, there is a difference, its called ..........deliberate !

Tony

 

What am I looking at?

 

Mercedes: what does Hamilton's super-engine have more?

Lewis unmarked a fresh 6-cylinder in Brazil: the fifth engine of the season, which cost him five positions on the starting grid in São Paulo, allowed him the best time in qualifying and an amazing comeback in Sprint Qualifying. It is a unit identical to the homologated ones, but configured to take some aspects to extremes such as the pressure in the combustion chamber, having a life of only four GPs.

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What super-engine did Lewis Hamilton ride for the Sao Paulo GP? The question is
legitimate, given that the F1 regulation does not allow for any changes in the season, unless, as in the case of the Ferrari hybrid, some component of the power unit has not been evolved before the FIA was frozen at the start of the championship.

Furthermore, the International Federation gradually authorizes the Manufacturers to carry out modifications on the engines if these are functional not to increase performance, but reliability.

Taking the words of Toto Wolff right, according to which frequent engine replacements are decided not so much for breakdowns, but for premature aging: a greater loss of power than expected from one GP to another.

Valtteri Bottas has managed to unmark six thermal units (double compared to last year!), While Lewis Hamilton has come to count five in Brazil, in the extreme attempt to reopen the games of a world that seems very directed towards Max Verstappen and the Red Bull.

In qualifying, the hepta-champion trimmed 438 thousandths to the world leader, a huge gap in a season that is usually played on hundredths, if not thousandths.

The evil ones had thought that the gap was due to the more open rear wing, then sanctioned by the FIA, but Lewis' resounding comeback from the last position of the Sprint Qualifying grid to fifth place at the checkered flag, says a lot about the fact that the decisive resource was the engine, since the profiles with which the English raced were obviously very legal.

And, then, one wonders what more does Hamilton's super-engine have than Bottas's? The Finnish sixth 6-cylinder F1 M12 E Performance homologated it in Austin, just three GPs ago and has a five unit that is still useful in rotations.


The Sprint Qualifying gives us a figure that is impressive: Lewis Hamilton went to 339.0 km / h at the speed trap of the race, while Valtteri Bottas did not go beyond 303.2 km / h, with Max Verstappen reaching 317. , 3 km / h.

It may be that the Finn detached earlier, given that he was in the lead to defend the position from the Dutchman and certainly Valtteri never used a slipstream, so he never opened the DRS, while Lewis was always ready to take advantage of the suction of who preceded him in the long climb that leads to the finish straight, but the 35.8 km / h difference makes an impression.


The figure is an example of a situation that is before everyone's eyes: Hamilton put all his immense talent into exploiting a W12 which, however, enabled him to… fly.

Hywel Thomas, chief engineer of Brixworth, has prepared an engine 5 for Lewis which must have a life of 2,500 km compared to the 7,000 that normally are required for the resolution of a "standard" power unit. Not being able to change the characteristics of the approved engine components, the Stella engineers worked to take the management strategies of this unit to extremes.

In addition to pushing the turbo, they intervened on the pressure in the combustion chamber: creating a deadly combo that can be worth over 15 horsepower in search of a pole position or a successful overtaking.

If Verstappen were to open the gap to at least 25 points, the equivalent of a retirement, we would not be surprised at all if in Doha it was Red Bull to focus on an engine 5 to have a fresh unit for the last race in Abu Dhabi and don't get to the grand finale with a deflated power unit ...

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https://it-motorsport-com.translate.goog/f1/news/f1-mercedes-cosa-ha-in-piu-il-super-motore-di-hamilton/6780713/?_x_tr_sl=it&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui,sc

 

Telemetry comparison

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naaah..it was the rocket up his ass!

 

let me see if i understand this correctly - Mercedes purposely build a engine with much more horsepower knowing it will not last the desired time?

If so then why doesnt Ferrari exploit that methodology and take a penalty every 3rd race instead of being handicapped every race!

 

Because Mercedes wants to win.

Ferrari is in F1 to race only.

 

Watch the steering shaft move towards the driver just like the DAS system did

 

Is it possible to get a high resolution of this?

 

Is it possible to get a high resolution of this?

 

I'm afirad it might be too late for Honda to respond. Clearly Bottas was the guinea pig for this new engine, they were testing the limits

 

Well, Mercedes only has to use this engine in these last races, they wouldn`t able to afford constant engine replacements during all the season. Anyway, for them an engine replacement means starting 6th. For Ferrari, that has not any margin at all, it would be starting 12th or so.

 

Yap...max was deprived of too many points, when i saw Massa dnf in Hungary i though it's all over...let's hope i'm wrong, max had been faultless all year, he trounced Hamilton diving a slower car on many ocasions, he wa sbrilliant yesterday, but there is a limit to what he can do, and Hamilton is no slouch, with such an advantage he can't lose.+

 

Click on the picture.

It should take you to a separate window.

In that window, you can enlarge it.

 

I did. They are opening to a 800x352 sized picture.

 

Ayyy.....sorry then. That's the best I could get.

 

Now I see it. I didn't scroll down. lol

 

Is there a source of the telemetries?

 

After the pit stop Bottas questioned the tire strategy and said “it would be an easy 1-2 for us”. So I guess he also had a strong engine.

 

Very interesting… Maybe forward this footage to RBR?

 

Where I got it from posted it that way regarding resolution.

 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/masi-fia-applied-f1s-let-them-race-rule-to-hamilton-verstappen-incident/6783852/

FIA did not look at Verstappen onboard before ruling out investigation
By: Adam Cooper
Nov 15, 2021, 4:19 AM
The FIA has revealed that it didn’t check onboard footage of Max Verstappen’s Turn 4 incident with Lewis Hamilton in Formula 1’s Brazilian Grand Prix before ruling out an investigation.
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Verstappen was defending from Hamilton on lap 48 of the Interlagos race, when his Mercedes rival managed to pull ahead of him on the run down to Turn 4.

The Red Bull driver braked late on the inside and subsequently ran wide off the track, forcing Hamilton to take evasive action to avoid contact.

While the incident was ‘noted’ by F1 race director Michael Masi, it was subsequently decided that no investigation of the incident was required.

But it has now emerged that the decision was taken without Masi nor anyone at race control looking at onboard footage of Verstappen’s car – which would offer a better perspective of the Dutchman’s intentions.

Asked by Autosport if the FIA had access to the pictures when making the call during the race, Masi confirmed that it did not.

"No, it was only the cameras that are broadcast, as I've said before, which is basically what we have access to throughout,” he said.

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Max Verstappen, Red Bull Racing RB16B, battles with Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes W12

Photo by: Charles Coates / Motorsport Images

Masi said that the footage, plus that from both cars' 360-degree cameras, will only be looked at after the weekend.

“The forward facing, the 360, there's all of the camera angles that we don't get live that will be downloaded and we'll have a look at them post-race,” he said. "It hasn't been obtained yet. It's been requested."

Masi conceded that the forward facing footage could be a smoking gun, if, for example, it shows Verstappen steering towards Hamilton.

"Could be, absolutely. Possibly. But no, we didn't have access to it. And obviously, it's being downloaded. And once the commercial rights holder supplies it, we'll have a look."

Let them race

While Mercedes felt that Verstappen’s actions were worthy of a penalty for forcing Hamilton off the track, Masi disagreed. He said that, instead, F1’s “let them race” principles were applied.

Asked if there was any inconsistency with other recent decisions, Masi replied: "I'd disagree that it's inconsistent. You have a look at it, and as I've said many times before, you judge the incident on its merits, and you have a look at all of it.

“And let's not forget, we have the overall let them race principles, and looking at it all, with all of the angles that we had available, that philosophy was adopted."

Asked why let them race applied in this case he said: "I think if you look proximity of the cars, getting into the apex, where it is, nature of the corner. The fact that both cars went off, neither car lost position or anything like that, that was probably the general view of it."

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When it was suggested that Hamilton would have made the corner had he not been edged wide by Verstappen Masi added: "If you sort of keep going a little bit further, they're give or take about side on side. So I think for the benefit of everyone, it was let them race, so let them race."

However Masi did consider giving the black and white warning flag to Verstappen for that incident.

"I did, it certainly came into my mind, and then I sort of looked at it a few more times, and it wasn't far off a black and white flag, to be brutally honest, for Max."

Although Verstappen didn’t receive a black and white flag for the Turn 4 incident, he did later receive one for weaving when trying to break Hamilton’s tow.

“It's absolutely clear cut,” said Masi. “That's something we've discussed last year at the drivers' request, I might add, the weaving in the straight. We said we will crack down on it. And that was very simple.”