FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRANDE PREMIO DE SAO PAULO 2021 - Sao Paulo - RACE.. ▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS▄▀▄▀▄▀

I saw this earlier and if it is a real video (which it appears to be), then it should be enough to DQ the Mercedes from the race (if it was filmed during the race). After 2020 the FIA banned the steering from moving on an axis like that.

 

I'm thinking, if it has a function, it's related to the suspension drop if anything. All suspension drops, but the footage we saw from Turkey, the merc drops very suddenly, as if a button is pushed indeed.

 

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333 vs 301

I know youvr been watching 60 years of racing but 32 kph is 32 kph. Looks like you need to re-adjust what you think a 20mph speed difference is.
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100% but they cannot disrupt the Max / Lewis show otherwise the whole circus would fall flat on its face. Not quite the Prost / Senna war but had LH been a tad more hot headed then it would have finished in tears yesterday.

That Merc ( well hammy's at least) blew everyone away yesterday, it looked like the Ferrari was stuck in the wrong gear such was the speed differential.

I truly am amazed at how Masi called it a racing incident, there is a difference, its called ..........deliberate !

Tony

 

What am I looking at?

 

naaah..it was the rocket up his ass!

 

let me see if i understand this correctly - Mercedes purposely build a engine with much more horsepower knowing it will not last the desired time?

If so then why doesnt Ferrari exploit that methodology and take a penalty every 3rd race instead of being handicapped every race!

 

Watch the steering shaft move towards the driver just like the DAS system did

 

Is it possible to get a high resolution of this?

 

Is it possible to get a high resolution of this?

 

I'm afirad it might be too late for Honda to respond. Clearly Bottas was the guinea pig for this new engine, they were testing the limits

 

Well, Mercedes only has to use this engine in these last races, they wouldn`t able to afford constant engine replacements during all the season. Anyway, for them an engine replacement means starting 6th. For Ferrari, that has not any margin at all, it would be starting 12th or so.

 

Yap...max was deprived of too many points, when i saw Massa dnf in Hungary i though it's all over...let's hope i'm wrong, max had been faultless all year, he trounced Hamilton diving a slower car on many ocasions, he wa sbrilliant yesterday, but there is a limit to what he can do, and Hamilton is no slouch, with such an advantage he can't lose.+

 

I did. They are opening to a 800x352 sized picture.

 

Now I see it. I didn't scroll down. lol

 

Is there a source of the telemetries?

 

After the pit stop Bottas questioned the tire strategy and said “it would be an easy 1-2 for us”. So I guess he also had a strong engine.

 

Very interesting… Maybe forward this footage to RBR?

 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/masi-fia-applied-f1s-let-them-race-rule-to-hamilton-verstappen-incident/6783852/

FIA did not look at Verstappen onboard before ruling out investigation
By: Adam Cooper
Nov 15, 2021, 4:19 AM
The FIA has revealed that it didn’t check onboard footage of Max Verstappen’s Turn 4 incident with Lewis Hamilton in Formula 1’s Brazilian Grand Prix before ruling out an investigation.
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Verstappen was defending from Hamilton on lap 48 of the Interlagos race, when his Mercedes rival managed to pull ahead of him on the run down to Turn 4.

The Red Bull driver braked late on the inside and subsequently ran wide off the track, forcing Hamilton to take evasive action to avoid contact.

While the incident was ‘noted’ by F1 race director Michael Masi, it was subsequently decided that no investigation of the incident was required.

But it has now emerged that the decision was taken without Masi nor anyone at race control looking at onboard footage of Verstappen’s car – which would offer a better perspective of the Dutchman’s intentions.

Asked by Autosport if the FIA had access to the pictures when making the call during the race, Masi confirmed that it did not.

"No, it was only the cameras that are broadcast, as I've said before, which is basically what we have access to throughout,” he said.

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Max Verstappen, Red Bull Racing RB16B, battles with Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes W12

Photo by: Charles Coates / Motorsport Images

Masi said that the footage, plus that from both cars' 360-degree cameras, will only be looked at after the weekend.

“The forward facing, the 360, there's all of the camera angles that we don't get live that will be downloaded and we'll have a look at them post-race,” he said. "It hasn't been obtained yet. It's been requested."

Masi conceded that the forward facing footage could be a smoking gun, if, for example, it shows Verstappen steering towards Hamilton.

"Could be, absolutely. Possibly. But no, we didn't have access to it. And obviously, it's being downloaded. And once the commercial rights holder supplies it, we'll have a look."

Let them race

While Mercedes felt that Verstappen’s actions were worthy of a penalty for forcing Hamilton off the track, Masi disagreed. He said that, instead, F1’s “let them race” principles were applied.

Asked if there was any inconsistency with other recent decisions, Masi replied: "I'd disagree that it's inconsistent. You have a look at it, and as I've said many times before, you judge the incident on its merits, and you have a look at all of it.

“And let's not forget, we have the overall let them race principles, and looking at it all, with all of the angles that we had available, that philosophy was adopted."

Asked why let them race applied in this case he said: "I think if you look proximity of the cars, getting into the apex, where it is, nature of the corner. The fact that both cars went off, neither car lost position or anything like that, that was probably the general view of it."

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When it was suggested that Hamilton would have made the corner had he not been edged wide by Verstappen Masi added: "If you sort of keep going a little bit further, they're give or take about side on side. So I think for the benefit of everyone, it was let them race, so let them race."

However Masi did consider giving the black and white warning flag to Verstappen for that incident.

"I did, it certainly came into my mind, and then I sort of looked at it a few more times, and it wasn't far off a black and white flag, to be brutally honest, for Max."

Although Verstappen didn’t receive a black and white flag for the Turn 4 incident, he did later receive one for weaving when trying to break Hamilton’s tow.

“It's absolutely clear cut,” said Masi. “That's something we've discussed last year at the drivers' request, I might add, the weaving in the straight. We said we will crack down on it. And that was very simple.”