Classiche Certified. Fairly vanilla black/black. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-ferrari-330-gtc-6/ Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
"Identification numbers corrected" by Ferrari Classiche in 2016. Please do your homework. Marcel Massini
I’m not sure I understand what you are referring to. The red book lists the engine and chassis as original, or am I missing a nuance shown in the book?
This was a no sale at RM last month I think. I am confused on a few things….the color change, the engine number being in another car despite it being the original engine - is that common? feel like there is something obvious I am missing here.
This car failed to sell at RM Sotheby’s in October 2021 with a high bid of $560k. Will be interesting to see if it gets the BaT “bump”.
I mean the color change after the Classiche cert, which struck me as odd. I did read the history Marcel, or at least as much as I could find. Maybe I am missing something obvious....wouldn't be the first time!
What color change after the Classiche certification? The car was born Argento (metallic silvergrey) but that was in March 1967. The certification happened 8 June 2016, some 49 years later. After the 2016 certification it wasn't repainted anymore. What exactly do you mean? And what history did you read? You mean the one published on the BaT website? That is just simple sales talk and has zero to do with the real history. Let me just say again that I recommend to do the homework. Anybody willing to spend half a million $ or more for a car certainly wants to know what happened during the last 54 years? Marcel Massini
More info: http://www.barchetta.cc/english/All.Ferraris/Detail/9939.330.GTC.htm http://smclassiccars.com/ferrari/494214-1967-ferrari-330-gtc-serial-number-9939.html https://ferraris-online.com/cars/1967-ferrari-330-gtc-9939/
Regarding a color change, in 2016 when the classiche certification was done, the exterior color is listed as Blue. Photo 102 of the BaT listing. The car is Black in the photos.
Seriously poor research here. Or rather lack thereof. Complete nonsense. Giuseppe Lucchini was born 2 July 1952 and in 1967 was FIFTEEN (15) years old only and did not own this car. Never. He didn't even have a driver's licence by May 1967. And nobody mentions that the car had a major issue on 8 November 1969 in Italy. I have paperwork to prove everything. And it also isn't mentioned that the car once changed identity......... But hey, if nobody cares...... Marcel Massini
Just to be crystal clear, I wasn’t vouching for the info, simply noting that this is just some of the info out there on the internet about this car. This is exactly the kind of silly s*it that’s makes it difficult to research these cars unless one has access to better information. And I think we all know who has better data, don’t we? Personally, I would rather have Marcels info than a Classiche Redbook. For comparison, the info on the internet said my car was “discovered” in a garage, etc. The owner of the car when it was supposedly “discovered” laughed when I told him how the car had been described by the last selling dealer. There were many, many factual errors, but hey, that’s part of the game out there, I guess. Buyer beware. So I am in total agreement with Marcel about the need to do ones research (and pay for a detailed PPI by a good shop) if one is going to bid on cars at this level. In any event, it will be interesting to watch this auction over the next couple of weeks.
Marcel, I don’t have a clue how much you charge. But if I was going to buy an old Ferrari, I’d pay it in a heartbeat. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Marcel, I have tried desperately to contact you to do reports on two of my cars. Please email me so that we can get together and get this done. Thanks Steve Meltzer <[email protected]>
Bring a Trailer, picture 104, show a page from Ferrari Classiche that states 'Identification numbers corrected by Ferrari Classiche/Ferrari S.p.A. in 2016' What does that mean? ..that the VIN number was correct but the ID numbers were not. Makes no sense to me. So, Ferrari Classiche can change a non matching car to a correct and now certified car? I have no doubt about the value of a Massini Report but I am trying to understand the value of a Ferrari Classiche-Certification like this one.
That's the rub. Many say Classiche is a cash grab by the factory. Now certification requires a yearly inspection too. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
It has been black at least since 2008 when advertised for sale by Chequered Flag in Marina Del Ray, and prior that it it had been red, and as Marcel rightly confirms, born Argento. There are so few cars around carrying original paint that I agree with Marcel, it doesn't matter, paint it back to Argento if bothers anyone. Regarding mention of blue, maybe someone has seen an old photo and thought it might have been blu scuro....easy mistake to make with a photo.
It's listed as Blue in the Ferrari Classiche red book, dated 2016. I assume the Classiche center visually inspects the car rather than rely on a photo? I agree, color change is not a big deal, but it is puzzling in that I expect to see receipts for the paint job and some documentation as to who did the paint job, how much it cost etc.
The seller on BAT has posted an explanation related to the possible theft of the car. Whether his explanation matches Marcels information, I don’t know, The seller has acknowledged the situation and the process by which a previous owner verified the identity of the car via Ferrari.
The Seller mentions it but stops well short at the explanation. He basically says “Ferrari is the ultimate authority and they have ruled with the Red Book.” if I were buying this car, I’d want the full story, lots of details missing it still seems. It’s never about buying a car, it matters the most when you sell it. Sketchy.
