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Jeddah 2021 Pre-Race Thread

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  1. jgonzalesm6

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    jgonzalesm6, Nov 24, 2021
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    Nice!!! Looking like proper circuit more! Sunny!! :)
     
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    This looks to be a power circuit. New track without being rubbered in so alot of graining due to sliding on the track. I expect Pirelli to bring in the hardest compounds.
     
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    = Ice-rink like first Portimao or Turkey last year...
     
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    So correct!! One of the unknowns and so important!!
     
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    https://www.formula1.com/en/racing/2021/Saudi_Arabia/Circuit.html

    Jeddah Corniche Circuit
    First Grand Prix
    2021

    Number of Laps
    50

    Circuit Length
    6.174km

    Race Distance
    308.45 km
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    What's the circuit like?
    Fast. Very fast. Average speeds around the Jeddah Corniche Circuit are set to be 252km/h – quicker than those at Silverstone, and second on the 2021 calendar only to Monza – aka ‘The Temple of Speed’. It will, quite simply, be the fastest street circuit ever seen in Formula 1 – while the track will also feature the most corners on the 2021 calendar with 27, many of them quick, sinuous bends as the drivers wend their way along the Jeddah waterfront.
     

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    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/red-bull-still-needs-fix-for-flappy-wing-problems/6818745/

    Red Bull still needs fix for ‘flappy’ F1 wing problems
    By: Jonathan Noble
    Co-author: Matt Somerfield
    Nov 25, 2021, 9:52 AM
    Red Bull has admitted it is still chasing a fix for the ‘flappy’ rear wing problems that it has suffered from at recent Formula 1 events.
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    The squad has faced a run of issues with its medium downforce configuration in the last few grands prix, which have given it headaches throughout practice.

    TV images have shown the top element of the rear wing flapping when DRS is open, with the problem appearing to be caused by the actuator element not being able to cope with the forces being put through it.

    The issues in practice in Qatar came before Red Bull switched to its high downforce wing from qualifying onwards, which is a design it knows can be run without drama.

    However, the next races in Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi will likely lean towards a low or medium downforce requirement, which puts some pressure on Red Bull to ensure its problems in that configuration do not return.

    Team principal Christian Horner said after the race in Qatar that going with the higher downforce option was what it wanted for there anyway – but is aware that it could need to use its more troublesome wing at the next venues.

    “That was our preferred wing and it was the setup direction we wanted to go in,” said Horner about the change for the high downforce version.

    “If those other wings are required in either Jeddah or Abu Dhabi, obviously we’ll need to have fixes in place to straighten them up, and the DRS mechanism.”

    Red Bull’s ability to get on top of the problems are not helped by the fact the DRS actuator is an homologated component for 2021, so it is not possible to change the design at this stage, even though a fix would in theory be simple.
     
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    Could either one wrap it up at this race? If Lewis dnfs or finishes out of the points, that could do it for Lewis. If Max blew it this race and Lewis won, Lewis would have 368 points and Max could win the next and win the title if Lewis got 8 points or less in the same race. But if Lewis can score a combined 9 points more than Max in the next two races, Lewis wins #8. So it going to be a good finish...one that will be fought out. Lewis has the edge because Mercedes is the strongest team.
     
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    Mathematically:: yes
    Realistically:: this one is going down to the wire.

     
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    Worst (best?) scenario Checko takes out Lewis on L1
     
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    Barcelona agrees new Formula 1, MotoGP deals until 2026
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    Nov 26, 2021, 4:42 AM
    The Spanish GP will stay in Barcelona until at least 2026 after Formula 1 agreed a new deal with the promoter and local authorities.
     
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    I really don't get it - so many super-exciting tracks with no slot on a 23 race calendar, plus still rich countries cueing up to pay tons of dollars to get on the list - and it seems like extending the venue which has given us the most boring race year after year (and definitely not the financial contributions on the level of the petro-states) is a no-brainer every time. Nothing against Spain or Barcelona (wonderful place) - but ghis is the race I would skip first...
     
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    Do you need a third reason?

    But yes I would prefer Jerez.
     
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    No surprise as Masi is inadequate with his input to the drivers.

    Sainz: Deeper F1 off-season conversation on Brazil Turn 4 expected
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    The track is going to be so dusty on Friday. Teams could be chasing the setup all the way up until Qualifying.

    I predict Bottas sets the fastest time in P1. He will probably look amazing all the way until Q3 when Lewis beats him by 3 tenths.
     
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    With little run off and high speeds, I would say the chances of a Ham / Ver calamity and double dnf are higher than usual…
     
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    Or strategy change due to safety cars.
     
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