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Gorgeous with the roof either!

 

It depends what you want.
1) LaFerrari is designed for ultimate performance.
2) SP3 is designed to hold value. I think this is the intention of Icona series in general.

When hybrid car reaches classic car age, it might not be so easy to get replacement battery to a car as rare as LaFerrari. What I have understood, it is not easy even now.

I suppose only time will tell if this is really a bigger problem than obtaining some other spare parts such as gearbox.

Then again, if you have only limited mileage on the the car, the gearbox will last but battery not.

 

Depends on what performance number you're looking at. You cite weight but let's be honest, Ferrari's have never, ever been about building the lightest car. It seems Ferrari's will always be around 1500 kilos. Maybe one day we will see millechili, but not today.

If you look at the engine, something any Ferrari fan should focus on, this is a great spec, maybe even the greatest road going V12 Ferrari has ever built. Highest max rpm, highest output, glorious tech inside, no added accessories. I thought the T.50 would be the last non-hybrid V12 we would ever see and Ferrari does this. Bravo Ferrari.

If you look at performance numbers, maybe this car isn't as quick to 100mph or have as high a top speed as a LaFerrari. Does that really matter? This car will smoke nearly every other car on the planet and it's crazy as hell. And if you're someone who was able to buy one new from Ferrari, you're a bad ass mother ****er.

I love this new model for it's craziness. It has some "interesting" things going on but that's OK. Is an Enzo pretty? What about a testarossa? An F50 has it's detractors but when seen in real life it actually works. Some Ferrari's are pretty, some are just wild.

The prettiest post war sports cars made are the Miura, the E-type, the 275 GTB, the 288 GTO, the F40, and XJ-220. The Monza is attractive but way too derivative, it breaks no new ground.

So yeah, this car isn't attractive in the traditional sense but that's OK. Time will tell how it ages in the long run.

 

XJ-220?
NO way.
Must be the joke of the day.
Looks like a whale.

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I appreciate the simplicity of the design but perhaps it's too bloated. I concede that.

 

I would say not just bloated, but also unoriginal and just all-around poorly designed.

Walkinshaw’s XJR-15 was so much nicer.

 

Wasn't the car developed as a 12 cylinder but brought to market with only 6 cylinders? Maybe they had already locked in that body design...
Fortunately the SP3 has not been downgraded to 6cylinders!

 

Exactly, a twin turbo V6 coming from groupe C if I remember correctly.
Lots of legal procedures with customers because of this change.

 

The V-6 in that Gr. C car was the worst sounding racing engine I ever heard with it sounding like it was farting on the overruns, LOL.

 

Just goes to show everyone sees things differently, which is why there are so many interesting cars around.


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Disagree, but funny!

 

A Rover V6 isn’t it ?

 

Power is meaningless without also considering weight. The two are inseparable. F=ma

LOVE the motor! But again, those who wanted a non-hybrid LaFerrari probably weren't looking to ditch the batteries and electric motors, but somehow keep the weight.

Heck ... not many drivers would want or need more performance than the Enzo. But that doesn't mean Ferrari should stop pushing the envelope, in my view.

Same weight as LaFerrari, with no hybrid and therefore less power/weight, is a step backwards in performance ... in a car that costs more than LaFerrari.

Agreed, time will tell how well it ages.

 

Yeah, something like that.

 

The base engine was from the 6r4 rally car

 

The SP3 is built on the La Ferrari CF chassis. I agree it’s a shame the SP3 didn’t lose weight in the process of losing the batteries. But I would not be surprised to see a future hypercar on the same chassis with a more modern battery/ e motor setup added back in. As for the rear on the SP3- it is growing on me- it reminds me of the rear of the millennium falcon!
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Something doesn’t add up, you take out a 160kg minimum out of the LaFerrari for the batteries, electric motor, heavy duty wiring and the kers unit, and build a car on the same chassis with an engine and transmission that weighs about the same and use carbo fibre body parts like the LaFerrari…… where is the extra 160kg, its a significant amount of weight? Either the LaFerrari is heavier than quoted or the SP3 is lighter.


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My Understanding is the extra weight is in the Body.

 

I don’t think that’s possible if its made of carbon fibre. The whole front and rear carbon clam shells on my Monza don’t weigh 160lbs never-mind 160 kilos kilos and the LaFerrari body couldn’t be much lighter. Where is the extra weight in the SP3 ?


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This was direct from one of the guy that was at the launch dinner.
Its a very different body to La Ferrari and I am guessing it would also need alot more support. Plus additional crash protect to meet new regs.

 

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Keep in mind its based on LaFerrari Aperta, which supposedly is heavier than the fixed roof LaFerrari due to structural reinforcement and who knows what else. Then yes, if there are new requirements from today. Also, it seems there is always some discussion around weight. Fundamentally, of course you would like it as light as possible, but realistically, when you put your foot down, its going to be really fast, sound great, rev so smoothly all the way past 9500. Truly something to savor.


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