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  1. Dino2010

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    Poor Louise!!
     
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  2. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Devil in the detail ..telemetry might lead MM to a grid penalty in Abu Dhabi
     
  3. Dino2010

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    Yeah, of course, we all forgot they drive on the right hand side in SA. :D
    And because Louise was "confused", that's an excuse for rearending Max? Bullocks.
     
  4. johnireland

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    I believe they consider Max at fault for suddenly slowing and causing the collision. Max showed a pattern of being continuously over aggressive during this race (among many). Lewis, with a damaged front wing, was still setting fastest laps. I'm not a fan of Lewis'...but I respect his results. And I think his 7 WDCs proves more than either mine or your comments. The odds are that by this time next week, he will have claimed his 8th. Max and RB were earning their points lead all season. They just couldn't carry the form all the way to the end.
     
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  5. jgonzalesm6

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    You forgot the part that Max gave Lewis a 2nd chance to pass by.......but I digress.
     
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  6. Dino2010

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    Max got the message from the pitwall to give the position back to LH. That's what he was slowing down for.
     
  7. Dino2010

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    You're talking like it's done?
     
  8. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Lewis was right behind him ..MM just needed to blend the loud pedal slightly not dither around in the middle and slow down dramatically
     
  9. rotaryrocket7

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    Lewis has done most of what happened to him today to others. He was elbows out with Rosberg all the time, he brake checked Vettel in Baku, he dove in on Max in England this year and punted him.
    I’m shocked that with a car slowing like Max did that Lewis didn’t blow right by him. Why would you shift down and get behind him, he had plenty of room to just pass him. If Max had a motor go or a puncture would Lewis have down shifted and slowed behind him?
    If you want to talk about chicanery how about Bottas holding Max up so Mercedes could double stop. If that doesn’t happen and Max pits he moves into second.
    Finally, when Max let’s Lewis by again the last time Lewis drives him off the road and gets admonshiment from MM.
    I don’t think Red Bull is innocent in the whole thing, but the scales didn’t end even today.
     
  10. ferrariforevervp

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    I agree at two points it was Verstappen / Red Bull's race to lose.

    1. At the first restart Verstappen started on pole, got the tires not warm enough and let Hamilton passing him in the first corner. If Verstappen got the tires temperature correctly and held the first corner, likely he would stay in front without penalty.

    2. At the second restart, he got Medium tires while Hamilton got Hard tires. I think this is too much of a gamble from Red Bull. If Verstappen was with Hard tires maybe he could still force to overtake Hamilton at the first corner given how aggressive he raced today.
     
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  11. lagunacc

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    Spot on.

    The only overly aggressive pattern is the cringe gaslighting from the usual "victim". Even the former drivers on Sky weren't buying his delusional nonsense.
    Dude drove straight into another car.


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  12. cmos

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    Werewolf "...even after he deliberately slammed into a slowing driver instead of easily passing..."

    For some reason, I think all F1 drivers can drive better than any one of us on this forum. And if you define him as a moron, where does that place us in life?
     
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  13. ferrariforevervp

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    With Medium tires Verstappen was like a sitting duck. The only way for Red Bull to pull off with Medium tires on Verstappen at restart is another Red flag and a free tire change... Too much of a gamble from Red Bull today.
     
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  14. DGS

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    Bingo.
     
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  15. Natkingcolebasket69

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    That’s probably true!


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  16. Natkingcolebasket69

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    My position is and always has been:
    1-I do not like Max at all. I find him dangerous, cocky and reckless
    2-Whilst not a fan of Lewis the hate, and I mean hate he gets from you guys on here makes me like him more and more.
    3-Lewis has been the fia’s darling it’s a fact.
    4-Max has not had the same privileges at all as Lewis
    5-Max is more deserving of winning the title this year.
    6- however my stance is that on this race he showed poor sportsmanship on at least 2 occasions and rightfully so imo got called for it.

    There is still one race which will get crazy tv ratings and passion on here.
    May it be a clean race where the best guy wins.


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  17. werewolf

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    #567 werewolf, Dec 5, 2021
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    Several people ... including Damon Hill ... have now offered the "confused" excuse for Hamilton.

    For those people (not you) ... will Hamilton be similarly "confused" if a driver experiences a loss of power or gearbox failure in front of him, on a wide open straight with plenty of passing room, in the next race?

    For that matter ...

    Serious question: How did Hamilton know that Verstappen wasn't experiencing a loss of power or gearbox failure in front of him ... on a wide-open straight with plenty of passing room ... which would have caused Verstappen to slow in a similar fashion?

    Yeah ... i also don't buy the excuse that Hamilton wasn't told about Verstappen letting him pass. Hamilton is running out of excuses for causing a dangerous collision ...
     
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  18. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Post of the day. Fair and spot on


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  19. Terra

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    I have a legitimate, honest question here.

    When you use the term “woke stewards” in this thread, is that simply code for stewards who are giving/extending extra support to a person of color?
     
  20. Natkingcolebasket69

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    What interest did Lewis have in deliberately crashing?


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  21. werewolf

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    Not "code" at all. "woke" is descriptor that people wear proudly, right?
     
  22. jgonzalesm6

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    Well, Lewis could have gone around Max....left or right. I don't think Lewis deliberately crashed into Max. Lewis accidentally crashed in Max.
     
  23. Terra

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    #573 Terra, Dec 5, 2021
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    Normal protocol isn’t staying smack-dab in the middle of the circuit when deliberately ceding position to a competitor.

    Coupled with the unpredictable, hair-trigger persona that is Max Verstappen, it’s not all that hard to imagine why LH would be very unsure of Max’s true motives when he (Max) is VERY QUICKLY slowing clear down to 3RD GEAR on a straightaway (i.e. well before the braking zone).
     
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  24. Terra

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    So you honestly believe the “woke stewards” are extending “special treatment” to LH because he’s a person of color?
     
  25. werewolf

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    I came to the conclusion that Hamilton deliberately crashed into Verstappen, simply because all of Hamilton's poor excuses have evaporated!!

    What other explanation is there?

    - There was no room to pass, without hitting Verstappen ?? (on a wide open straight)
    - Max hit the brakes suddenly and immediately, with no time for Hamilton to react ?? (watch the footage from Hamilton's car, and you know that's patently false)
    - Hamilton wasn't told that Max was letting him pass, AND Hamilton somehow knew that Max was NOT experiencing a power loss or gearbox failure ... so he had no choice but to hit Max??
    - Hamilton was just "confused"??

    When ALL other explanations have been quickly and easily eliminated, the ONLY option left is that the collision was deliberately caused by Hamilton.

    For those who still won't accept it ... you had better hope that no one experiences a loss of power or gearbox failure in front of Hamilton in the next race (on a wide-open straight, with plenty of room to pass)!!
     
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