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Max Verstappen

Discussion in 'F1' started by CRG125, Aug 12, 2014.

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  1. Of course he did.

    What's the point of your statement? o_O
     
  2. surfwolf

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    Max proves how juvenile he is again and again! Max is a danger to everyone on the racetrack. Karma bites Max, deservedly so!
     
  3. TopspeedPT

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    Max is a mess. He needs to chill and grow up for a couple of years.
     
  4. Drive550PFB

    Drive550PFB Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I have defended and pulled for Max. I can't stand Lewis.

    After the last few weeks, I have had it. Max is a danger to other drivers. He is reckless. At least Lewis behaves well, even though I do not like him. LH is better for F-1 than Max.
     
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  5. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Max needs to get his head sorted before he damages himself. He has unbelievable talent and a mega will to win, but he needs to be less like his dad and realise that bullying your way through life doesn’t end well.

    We must also remember that there was a mitigating circumstance today. The Saudi track. It’s a complete shambles and a death trap.
     
  6. Etcetera

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    He seemed to be getting his act together, but all that evaporates when the heat is on. The guy is his own worst enemy.
     
  7. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    I was thinking Max would focus and take this. Not the case.
     
  8. Nuvolari

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    Very big of you to put preferences aside. There is no doubt that Max is massively talented but he still lacks that maturity of a champion. Today Max did a lot of stuff that you could either car dirty or reckless. Either way Lewis did have to again be the bigger person to avoid a big incident.
     
  9. Edward 96GTS

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    redbull let max down with the tire selection.
     
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  10. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jos probably decided that LOL
     
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  11. Etcetera

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    WDC runner up this year will get a chromed F1 rear light assembly as trophy.
     
  12. 4right

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    I believe what we are seeing is the continued dominance of the Mercedes. Verstappen is then required to take on additional risk in an effort to be competitive. Also why Hamilton is giving the appearance of being the bigger person. It’s to his advantage to keep things clean as he ultimately has the upper hand.
     
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  13. Nuvolari

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    Rubbish. Nobody had a crystal ball. Red Bull and Mercedes each took radically different strategies and only one was going to prevail. Given the history of the race it was a bold yet calculated move. You don't win at this level by playing it safe and Max was looking awfully good in the early stages making Mercedes to look questionable until near the end. They were right to try it.
     
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  14. root

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    Not with Horner and Marko and his dad around him. But penalty or no penalty putting him on mediums was not going to end well for him with Hamilton putting intense pressure on him as became obvious in the last 5 laps. His tires were gone and he was a sitting duck by lap 45.
     
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  15. SimCity3

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    Mercedes would've cruised to championship again in September if that pesky Max wasn't around.

    I'd rather see a scrappy title battle than yet another Merc cakewalk to P1 and P2.

    Max is a lightweight compared with champions such as Alan Jones
     
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  16. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Add free Karting lessons and defensive driving course lol :)
     
  17. DF1

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    Yes we like a good battle. Not Kindergarten and complaints and political posturing.
    In all of that it was RedBull who had to design new wings lol. They talk and lose alot.

    Maybe they should race more and talk less eh?

    We liked MS cake-walks? We had some with Mercedes. Its F1 none of this is so new. On to Yas.
    Of course we wont like what we see there at all. We forget not all are pleased with anything.

    I will be happy to see new cars next year, not the dowgraded, lack of development models of this year. This title closes an era and it was compromised. Forgetful but for the posturing and political fireworks overall. FIA need to set rules, ensure all are aware and enforce them. That means a new Masi. He needs to go.

    Pinnacle looks less than that currently. Spa this year was a goat-rope. Not a race. The worst example of all of this was that so called race. The minor penalties RedBull complain about are common. As if driver penalies are new. Its the lack of consistency. Better yet the outright new rules made up on the spot such as Brazil.

    Pinnacle my a--.
     
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  18. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Pulled from another site -
    If Max was racing against himself for the title there'd be a crash every week. :p:D:D:p
     
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  19. sp1der

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    Max has blown it, but against a back drop of Merc clearly bending the rules in Brazil ref rear wing deflection, again the FIA just sat back and did nothing as clearly its normal for a car to have such a massive speed delta.
     
  20. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    The real story is this - Medium tyres gamble that failed. He was never going to win with those. They simply did not endure.
    Masi - yes strangely handles races

    The rest is the normal F1 psycho. The tires were the story. Doesnt sell to the extremists who only see Max or LH. Just another F1 gamble that failed.
     
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  21. Simeon

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    First of all guys, no matter what anyone says or who we think is at fault where. I am still on a high from that race yesterday. I have not been on the edge of my seat watching an F1 race like this in a looong time. That was just pure entertainment.

    Secondly, I think both Max and Lewis were playing plenty of dirty tricks on each other - Lewis backing up the field by almost the full main straight when Max was taking the pole for the first restart, Max cutting the corner to get the lead back on that first restart, Max running Lewis wide when he tried to pass on the outside, and then Lewis completely to blame for running into the back of Max.

    Max did not slam on his brakes immediately when letting Lewis by, he was slowing down gradually but Lewis did not want to get past at that particular spot because of the DRS detection line and was purposely staying behind Max while Max was slowing down gently to let him by. Well I'm sorry Lewis, but you can't be let by for someone doing you wrong AND chose exactly where you want to be let by. I think that should have counted for Max trying to let him by and he should not have been asked to let him by again AND get a penalty for that same incident running him wide as well, AND get penalized for Lewis running into the back of him. Seriously?

    What about a penalty for Lewis for running into the back of another car when he was easily able to just drive around him 3 or 4 seconds before the impact when he clearly saw the car was slowing to let him by but instead chose to stay directly behind him and not overtake because it wasn't exactly where he wanted to be let by?
     
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  22. jgonzalesm6

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    Max was fine with the hards on the 1st red flag to end the race with. Why RedBull changed Max to mediums is beyond me. It was on error on RedBulls part.
     
  23. subirg

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    This gamble was an all or nothing play and it nearly came off for Redbull. They knew Lewis was faster on hards. They knew their only chance was to try and gain an advantage by being on mediums. They also knew the tyres wouldn’t last the race distance. But… the gamble was that there could be more red flags or safety cars and that would have given them enough range extension to make it. I don’t blame them for that call. It was a bold gamble and it nearly worked. As it is Max came second which is what would have happened had he been on hards anyway.
     
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  24. Simeon

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    At the time I was hoping they would go with the medium tires so that Max would be able to jump on the start and thought it was actually a good idea. I thought the track was supposed to be low degradation and considering all of the safety cars and other incidents that were inevitably going to happen still, in my opinion that was definitely the way to go. Unfortunately it did not pan out.

    But Max was also consistently able to pull away from Lewis before they got to the DRS zone for the main straight until finally the VSC went on for the 15th time and went away exactly at the best moment (for Lewis) when they were just about to cross the DRS detection zone and he was close behind AND they enabled DRS instantly after the VSC (though that was consistent for the whole race at least). I knew that was going to happen the moment they disabled the VSC just as Max and Lewis were about to cross the VSC line.
     

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