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Michael Masi gets fired/replaced?

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  1. absostone

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  2. pilotoCS

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  3. lagunacc

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    Baila Ahora !! ;)
     
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  4. Mosin

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    But he is still required to stay with in the sporting regulations, the fia International sporting regulations can not be changed on a whim by one guy whos job is to follow the dam rules not make them. MASI is not responsible of the creation of the international fia sporting regulations, he certainly cant change the rules during a race for technically 13? Or more different racing series just for 1 god dam racing lap in f1. Your being ridiculous believing such nonsense
     
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  5. Bas

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    Masi is allowed to override if he deems necessary. Regardless of that all, my immediate comments after max won was that Masi should resign in disgrace. Not for just this race but the entire season. With all the actions that helped Hamilton out all season he should never have been in contentions if the fia didn’t meddle as much as they did. Max is the correct champion.
     
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  6. jgonzalesm6

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    There's a petition going around to get the FIA to make Lewis the WDC and overturn Max as the WDC winner.:rolleyes:
     
  7. jpalmito

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    Good idea !
    i will do the same to make Prost 1990 WDC !
    Ayrton will have difficult time to justify himself !
     
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  8. absostone

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    Max got it done. How many times was max a sitting duck on crap tires. . How many times. Let’s give lulu 07 also. And 2016.
     
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  9. Nurburgringer

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    Now now, Max isn't completely innocent in the "taking it like a man" area. I didn't keep score but he's whined plenty of times about how FIA decisions against him are "typical", convienienty forgetting about questionable ones that go in his favor.

    It's a big show.
    Sure FIA/Masi has royally screwed things up (e.g. not telling Lewis 1st that he was getting 1st place back, which led to Max surprising him by stomping on the brakes at the beginning of the straight. Or allowing any teams to lobby for their driver during a decision, or even not making Lewis give back 1st on turn 1 in Yas which I think would probably have been the correct call) but the pendulum has swung both ways so there's clearly no consistent bias.
    Over the season both Lewis and Max have benefitted from luck, and also questionable calls.
    Max just happened to get the benefit of both at the very tail end of the season, when everything was on the line.
     
  10. jgonzalesm6

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  11. Mosin

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    Again its not up for debate.. in his own words. you know, Masi's own words, Ready? " There’s a requirement in the sporting regulations to wave all the lapped cars past,” Masi said at the time.

    He cant change the sporting regulations, he must follow them, the safety car procedure isnt the sporting regulations its a safety procedure issue, the restart of the race was a dud due to him only allow some not all cars through, thus its invalid thus MV was wrongly crowned champ as the restart was wrong and didnt have enough laps avalible to bring the safety car in and have a racing lap with in the sporting regualtions which the race MUST be run under. the end of the race is invalid and will be changed according to the rules. If Merc win ofc, which i wont bet against at the ICA courts which is after all independant from the FIA and wont think twice about altering the result in favour of sporting integrity of which its suposed to uphold and protect.
     
  12. lagunacc

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    Yeah, but he/RB didn't go "there". RB could have lost their focus over the wrong call on lap 1. Raced on.
    Wrong calls are not manipulation. You want slack in a system. A "100% correct system" would be far worse.

    The fallout from where MB and the media are pushing this would be detrimental to the sport. Fortunately, in this department, Europe's still ahead,
    so the 'this was manipulated' is not gonna happen.

    Unfortunately some people's reputation will be unnecessarily dragged through the mud.
    Should have kept the acronym festival away from the grid and forbid teams from making political statements.
     
  13. Nurburgringer

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    huh? What happened to freedom of speech? Corporations are allowed to make political contributions and statements, why not sports teams/players?
    Should we also forbid Pillow companies from making political statements? ;)
     
  14. lagunacc

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    Forbid teams from making political statements on the grid.
     
  15. cmos

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    I’m not taking a position on who should have won, who is slimy, etc. It’s just that one of the unfortunate circumstances of this debacle, is that there will always be questions asked. None of us can unsee what we saw.
     
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    Lewis had a chance to pit for tires and mercedes didn't. If he had, max would have stayed out for track position and max would have been the driver on old tires and lewis would have made the same pass max did for the championship. Mercedes gambled and got it wrong. That's how I look at it.

    Lewis drove better and his car was better, but the team made a bad decision. Red bull gambled and it paid off. That's sports.

    As far as Massi goes, there are way too many options he can do that he gets to make the decision on. It needs to be more clear than "may" when it comes to a rule. He botched it and it caused some bad luck for lewis and mercedes on sunday after they made the bad decision. I understand Massi not wanting to finish the season under a safety car and so he made a quick decision and it hurt one team. It happens. I do think going forward, team bosses should not be able to talk to him during the race.

    Luck is part of the game. Look at imola, lewis had great luck that day to have a red flag and magically gain his lap back and finish on the podium when he didn't deserve a point.
     
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  17. pilotoCS

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    The Masi issue in Abu Dhabi is small potatoes compared to the Steward's decision in Silverstone. Receiving only 10 second penalty when one has just eliminated one's closest competitor (at the risk of grave injury I might add) is just plain ridiculous.
     
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  18. Natkingcolebasket69

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    I could write the same thing about horner. Both need to go.


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  19. ricksb

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    Monday Morning quarterbacking is always logical, but the problem is with 5 laps left in the race there is no guarantee the race will restart or how it will. Giving up track position would have been the head scratcher in that event, without knowing Masi would create so much confusion at the end. A team couldn’t prepare for that situation, and when you hear the likes of Ricciardo, Norris and even MV saying it was screwy, I don’t see how you point the finger at Merc for a “bad decision”. Bad luck, misfortune, certainly.
     
  20. pilotoCS

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    Bad luck? Yeah, that was Latifi's crash. Max and the Red Bull team might say the opposite. That's the way the pendulum swings, isn't it?

    It was also a bad/wrong decision on the part of the Mercedes team to not pit him for tyres. That wasn't luck. That was a strategy call., not luck.
     
  21. Mosin

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    You are only salty about that because its the only tiny thing you can cling to in hope to validate MV's fake, rigged championship title. LH was punished with in the rules.

    RB was so desperate to have him punished more they had to resort to trying to fabricating evidence HAHAHAHAHAHA.
     
  22. pilotoCS

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    In the short term the questions are being asked, of course. In the long term I think people will see that luck/bad luck and various strategy calls have made the difference in race outcomes many times in the past. That's life.:)
     
  23. Mosin

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    So, Drivers, EG Max him self, Lando, Alonso and blah blah have all said it finished wrong, MV have also said RB wouldnt have done any thing different to what Merc did. But when you say it they did wrong.. It must be right?
     
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    Started by all HAM’s celebrity friends and woke fans who just discovered F1 on Netflix? FFS!!

    Meanwhile this moron joined the bandwagon:

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/brundle-shared-verstappen-hamilton-f1-title-would-be-fitting/6884950/

    As mentioned by @jpalmito and since the win was really decided by the luck of the bad timing (for HAM) of the SC, if they’re going to revise history why not give Prost the shared win in ‘90, Lauda in ‘76 (coming off his deathbed to finish 2nd), Mansell in ‘86, and even (throwing a bone here) to Senna in ‘89?

    All those aggrieved by heartbreaking loss can submit an application to the FIA. Or maybe the FIA should award the championship to all the drivers for participating and for their enthusiasm all year long—like they do in schools now. Can’t have any losers, you know.
     
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  25. Jack-the-lad

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    Will “the greatest fans in the world” launch a twitter attack on the FIA?
     
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