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500 Superfast, the Royal Ferrari

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  1. omd78

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  2. Marcel Massini

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  3. The Red Baron

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    I noticed from about 10 years back to say 20 years back, the price comparisons between the
    500 Superfast, 410 SA and 400 SA remained more or less fairly static.
    Now the 500 SF has dropped to the back of the field.
    Possibly swings and round abouts.
     
  4. Nino from Paris

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    Hello, this car was seen in Paris a few weeks ago. Any information on which s/n this could be? Thank you very much!
     

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  5. Jack-the-lad

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    Florida dealer plates in Monaco....
     
  6. miurasv

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    5979SF?
     
  7. Marcel Massini

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    #282 Marcel Massini, Dec 15, 2021
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    Might well be 5979 SF but this car didn't have the 500 Superfast script on the trunk lid.
    This Roma plate appears to be a fake plate and would be from July 1968, but doesn't belong to a Ferrari. In July 1968 5979 SF was in California. Photo below is from 2018 and shows 5979 SF in Switzerland.

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  8. turbo-joe

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    marcel, what means the SF behind the VIN? is this also stamped in the frame?
     
  9. Marcel Massini

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    Superfast.
    No.
    But on build sheets.

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  10. Enzo Anselmo Ferrari

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    what?!? I’m often in this street (my best friend lives 5mn from there), and I missed it !
     
  11. Nino from Paris

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    Thank you very much for the information!
     
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  13. Marcel Massini

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    Recently it has been fully restored by Carrozzeria Egidio Brandoli of Montale near Modena, Italy, for an English client.

    Marcel Massini
     
  14. BMWairhead

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    I saw that car (and a second RHD 500 Superfast…white, IIRC) at the Imperial Palace in Vegas in 2011 or 2012 ish. I saw it again at the Blackhawk a few years later. It’s a shame to hear that the Blackhawk has no vintage Ferraris. They had quite a few when I was there. They also had all three Alfa BAT cars…I believe they were recently sold off at auction, also.
     
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  15. Marcel Massini

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    8459 SF was with The Auto Collections of Imperial Palace Hotel (Ralph Engelstad) in Las Vegas/NV in May 2008.
    Later on it went to an Asian collector who parked a number of his Ferraris at Blackhawk in Danville, they didn't belong to Don Williams/Blackhawk. All those cars at Blackhawk belonged to the Asian.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    The salmon colored 375mm Ghia that never gets driven also I assume? It was at both locations during the same timeframe.
     
  17. Marcel Massini

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    Correct, 0476 AM.
    But this one has a new owner since January 2020 and is currently undergoing a total restoration.
    It may be shown at Pebble Beach in August 2022.

    Marcel Massini
     
  18. BMWairhead

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    That’s fantastic. 0476 AM is not everybody’s cup of tea, but it deserves better than being trucked from venue to venue in a somewhat sad state.
     
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    a total restauration within not even 8 month? then there seems not too much to do
     
  21. BMWairhead

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    500 Superfast, the Royal Ferrari
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    Thank you, Marcel. According to me, it was 2010 at the Imperial Palace / Auto Collection. I had been to the IP museum three or four times from 1997 to 2010. Significantly different experience each time. In 2010 there were many Ferraris…0476 AM, the two RHD SII 500 Superfasts, a 365 California, at least one “princess car”…etc.

    They all had Amelia Island front plates. I assumed they were in transit from AI and were being stored at the IP. As Marcel alluded to…many of the same cars were subsequently stored at the Blackhawk. I assumed the “stored cars” from Amelia were back home, but according to Marcel, they changed ownership in the meantime. It sounds like a “package deal” happened.

    Now I need to figure out why all three Alfa BAT cars were there and why they were auctioned separately.
     
  22. Marcel Massini

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    January 2020 until August 2022 is not 8 months. It's almost 32 months.

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  23. Marcel Massini

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    The 3 Alfa BAT cars belonged to the same far east collector.
    And no, no package deal happened.
    The then owner had more than 200 cars and a number of these were simply parked at Blackhawk and other places.

    Marcel Massini
     
  24. turbo-joe

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    sorry marcel, have not read right :( I thaught restauration began just now
     

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