The Z06 may in fact not be everyone's cup of tea from the normal Corvette crowd. They are used to torque on the bottom end. But going up almost a full liter from the 458 motor should help, as does 675 HP. The 458 isn't the torquiest engine out there which is why Ferrari downsided it and added turbos on the 488. For me, the twin cam motor is a thrill. I can't wait. But you do have a point. It will be interesting to see the first real reviews.
Personally, I don't think torque figured into the equation as to why Ferrari added turbos when they designed the 488. The hp wars were on and adding turbos is an easy solution to make high hp and still meet efficiency requirements. It's basically the same reason McLaren were doing the same thing.
for the cows here, steeped in high rev euro machine art Tue z06 hits a spot. Not sure that applies to all 20k who ordered one, or that they understand the nature of the beast. That’s why imo when the e Rey and and zr1 come on stream zo6 take up will Decline significantly. Those other two cars will hit the spot far better for most who beat a premium very high hp road Vette. Even on bragging rights the zr1 will be the thing. the reality of living with a z06 over one of the other 3 versions of the c8 will limit its appeal once the others are online. Right now it’s just the next hottest Vette.
we can say the. That the Tunis came in also because legislation meant there was not really more hp to come in a na layout. Once the first company went tubo(maclaren) the paper delta to the na Ferrari was too hard to ignore. What was list of course was precise throttle reponse and application with also sound. Turns out that the punters didn’t care, sim much more ho was hard to ignore. Only lambo has held out this far, I think that party development budget but also they realized that they had a na niche to themselvs in that segment. porche brought back the na motor to the boxster and never fully bandines it or the stick in the 911. They understand if you’re going to make sports cars there are drivers who wnat the. As aooosed to faster gt cars, and there is a premium market to serve.
The zr1 could be z06 engine with eray electric motor. Will be heavy but atill interesting. Probably out perform 918
So how so they differentiate zr1 from eray? Turbo? Seems like much bigger project than just using existing z06.
We are a long way away from the ZR1 (4 years or more), IMHO. Assuming they start actually building and selling Z06's in 2nd/3rd quarter 2022 (as a 2023 model), I think it will be calendar year 2023 before they actually do a formal announcement of the "e-Ray", so as to not spoil the Z06 roll out. The e-Ray will be a 2024MY car. The above is my GUESS (except the Z06 build/sell times) and worth exactly what you paid for it!
If I may add to the above: I think the C8 is going to have a long tenure in the market because of all the slow downs during it's initial roll out. We're 3 years in now and people are still waiting 12-16 months for cars. Maybe we see the C9 in 2030? As far as the "Zora", I'm not sure such a car will be built. I've always thought that the ZR1 would be TT LT6 with front motors. If that turns out to be the case, then what could GM possibly make to be above that, unless they go hog wild with carbon fiber/exotic metals everywhere to get the weight down and have a $200K+ MSRP before options. That's a tough ask, in my opinion, to have a car in the same model line that is 3 times+ the price of the base car (although Porsche gets away with it...)
Zora will have 1000+ hp. The key will be keeping the weight below 3800 pounds. Will be difficult abs require much more carbon in the chassis.
Weight for zr1 and e Rey will be irrelevant. Those cars will be all about headline numbers Namely acceleration and maybe a single lap. the z06 is the one for track “endurance” The other two are all about road performance, luxury etc.
Reports also said that the Z06 was going to be TT or only have 600hp. We know how that turned out. Some people are guessing the ZR1 will be TT with the LT6 engine. Just people guessing though.
My understanding Zo6 670 na flat plane quad cam E Rey classic sbc with electric motors of 150 ho. So 650 total. Zr1 same block and heads as z06 with bent crank and two turbos 800+ hp. Zora zr1 motor with e Rey eletrics.
I have no idea why the LT1 would be part of the Eray. So far the only indication of this if seen is the exhaust on what is most commonly accepted as an unwrapped mule car. I would think a V6 would be at home in that car. The Cadillac line has some great options. Less displacement, great sound and readily available.
lt1 cheap to make, sound, part of the Vette brand and with electrics fuel efficiency. why go to the cost and hassle or a camer v6 You’re not saving weight, it sounds insipid and is not cheap to make. It’s not as though the short length of the v6 will confer any benefit in a car with the wheelbase for a v8 already. what benefit could a v6 possibly confer in this package. A modern v6 prob costs more to make than an lt1, it’s probably no lighter, maybe it’s marginally more fuel Effcient but has a tq deficiency and as mentioned it’s shorter length will convert no benefit inan existing wheelbase. Plus the ?6 lacks the sound or tq. They could go turbo 4 too with 400 hp which woukd loose weight, but why. A smaller engines main advantage is to make a smaller package/chassis and in this case the package is already cast stone:
Cost is reason why I cant see them developing a turbo which would be a 3rd engine for c8. And thats in addition to e motor. Just keep existing 2 engines, team them up w e motors and that gives 4 c8 models. Base ls5, z06 ls6, eray ls5 with e motor, and zr1 ls6 with e motor. Its not like gm has all this profit to throw around on ice engines just before they're going extinct. I would guess ls6 will be last fresh design ice from gm ever.
Great thoughts on that. We are just arm chairing the hell out of this. It will be very interesting to see where they take it. The V6 Cadillac motors are already developed but the LT1 has been developed for the chassis.
C8 Stingray engine is LT2 C8 Z06 engine is LT6 C8 e-Ray engine is assumed to be LT2 with electric assist C8 ZR1 engine is assumed to a Twin Turbo variant of the LT6, called "LT7" or something.
Finally got a ballpark estimate from Furman today. Repeat customer on the Z06 list since about a year ago and I'm looking at minimum 3 more years. I'm fine with that, sucks, but at least I have a C8 in the meantime. 4 years. Dayum.
My order for the ZO6 is in with Furman, as well. Patiently waiting my 3 years!! Looking to add the enjoyment of a F430 to fill the gap in time!!
