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    Yes they are.
     
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    And why.........?
     
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    Refueling tracks include 20-30 degree bank angles at either end, normally not 60-90 degrees. The photo shows an old SAC instructor demo where the tanker used a high bank angle while gently losing altitude to teach instructors that as long as you maintained formation in the contact position, you could still take fuel regardless of bank angle. Did not last long since theoretically it takes infinite G to maintain altitude in a 90 degree bank. They do not do this now.
     
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    Not true, just takes power.
     
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    Yup, true. Power does not generate lift. You can do some things with the rudder to generate lift, but very limited.

    Unusual nose-high attitude recovery for a fighter is to roll to 90 degrees of bank, let the nose fall through the horizon, and roll to recover.
     
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    I saw this aileron roll when he was going north and the one that Tex did going south. Smooth classic 1 G maneuvers. Sixty seven years ago.
     
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    Beacon Hill below, Harbor Island in the background. Going north. First roll.
     
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    Com'on Bob, you know that isn't true.
     
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    Yeah, I know. I was seeing things in the hot sun and big airplanes like that can't turn upside down.
     
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    Fun to do in a Stearman, though. 45 deg. climb, left aileron, hold back stick at the top, hold aileron, left rudder, let the nose fall through, and finish the rotation. And there you are! Off heading again!
     
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    Except that is not an aileron roll and you pulled 2+g's coming out the bottom.
     
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    Well, I'm probably wrong again but what I was trying to do was not a barrel roll and not a slow roll. What was it? My instructors were right, however, I didn't know what the hell I was doing.
     
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    I didn't have enough money to hire an instructor for aerial maneuver instructions so I tried to teach myself in the Stearman. It is an unbendable airplane in the air, +13 and -13, so there was no concern about that. I was able to do most of the stuff, some not very pretty, but recognizable. Spins, loops, wingovers, snap rolls, chandelles, hammerheads, clover leaf, vertical reverse, Immelman, barrel roll, aileron roll (I think), and falling leaf. It was a lot of fun and I scared the crap out of myself a couple of times but it saved my life severall times in later years.
     
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    I got to thinking about the first Vertical Reversement that I tried. That was the one that scared the tar out of me. I was supposed to initiate a vertical turn and yank the stick in my gut , kick top rudder , go up over the top of the turn and into a reverse turn. I got the timing wrong and neutralized the snap when I saw the horizon come up and that was too late. I inadvertently did an inverted reversement. I found myself pushing forward stick and opposite rudder when I was inverted already and to feel cold air under your butt when you were supposedly securely belted in can be a bit unnerving. I should have started stopping the snap when the nose was just past vertical and then continued with the reverse turn when the reverse snap was stopped. Kids are so dumb.
     
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